Message from @evildood89
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All the footage available should steamroll prosecution
I lost 2 personal long time friends trying to beg them to produce fact s showing that he was a white supremacist while the "this is what a cult" meme was going around. Their answer was if you support trump and police (like kyle) boom you got the label too. Well okay then guys, where do I pick up my schutzstaffel while I drags yalls character through the mud to the people you're trying to look good for.
Please don't blame the victims, or use such imagery in a demeaning way.
Regardless of the circumstances of self-defense, they are in fact victims.
> The entire reason that the pedophile (Rosenbaum) was chasing kyle was because kyle produced a fire extinguisher to another memeber of his group wearing similar clothes and he used it to put out rosenbaums 2nd or 3rd fire attempt.
@evildood89 please don't just call him by that adjective, it is needlessly disparaging and has nothing to do with the case
(it makes your argument look weak if you do that)
Facts are facts, I do apologize I am of the salty kind.
I don't mind people pointing it out
If Kyles facebook determines his character, Rosenbaums criminal records determine his.
but don't name people by an adjective
I mean you can, it is just very childish
I think your arguments are better than that
Edited out of respect.
thank you!
Appreciate it!
It seems like being a little pointed and then using well thought out metaphors works best at getting through to many and I forget myself in respectable company sometimes.
Aye no, I apologize either way. I cant demand people are held accountable if I cant hold myself as such.
All good! More of a heads up for other folks as well.
Since we understand this is highly politically-charged and people are extremely divided on this case.
Hey that was me in the stream saying we shouldnt ban ALL trolly comments right away, need to hold out and hopefully reach people. So I see exactly how what Im doing is hypocritical and its just venting. As realz said I hope to hold myself to higher standards because I am way more clever than that !
That's the spirit.
Rule #1: Do not talk to the police
EVER
That was Kyle's first mistake, not immediately requesting a lawyer
I understand that emotions run high and he just wanted to explain himself, but you never...ever...under any circumstances...talk to the police.
all due respect to the venerable Mr. Ayoob...
> Rule #1: Do not talk to the police
@Neph (Nec) / Krystaps (War)
I don't think that Kyle was raised to have a healthy skepticism of police.
Yea, he wasn't.
But when you're on the other end of the system, well
@Neph (Nec) / Krystaps (War) I am aware of that argument.
you have to protect yoursellf
im not sure you are protecting yourself by not telling the police the guy you defended yourself against had 3 buddies who just fled in a BMW
The reasoning is that anything you say can be used against you. It can never be used FOR you, but it can be used against you. And even if you are absolutely positively telling the truth, there is no way that you can know that you haven't said anything that can be used to implicate you in something
That is the basics, yes.
In this politically charged atmosphere, it is tricky.
If you shoot a guy in self defense, and his buddy picks up the weapon and just stands by the gas pump 50 feet away waiting for the police to arrive to watch you get arrested, not pointing out to the LEO that the weapon your opponent just had might be in the pocket of the blue over black standing in the crowd, might seem like a bad idea.
That may be, but that is far and away not similar to what we are talking about here
which is being in an interrogation room with a police officer