Message from @realz

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2020-11-12 15:54:51 UTC  

I am saying, by not cooperating with police you are doing a good job at blocking them from investigating you. Which you want.

2020-11-12 15:55:09 UTC  

But you might also be doing a good job at blocking them from investigating someone else. Which you dont want.

2020-11-12 15:55:59 UTC  

Brancas book has a list of things

2020-11-12 15:56:13 UTC  

In a world where you have good representation, and a functional legal system, that may not be problem, as your council will eat the prosecutor for breakfast.

2020-11-12 15:56:32 UTC  

In a less optimal world, the answer is less crisp.

2020-11-12 15:56:38 UTC  

IIRC so does ayoob's book (he mentions the list in the video)

2020-11-12 15:57:02 UTC  

But yes obviously not having a good lawyer can just complicate everything

2020-11-12 15:57:20 UTC  

And not pointing out evidence can also complicate things regardless

2020-11-12 15:57:36 UTC  

actual case:

2020-11-12 15:57:42 UTC  

she says: "he hit me!"

2020-11-12 15:57:43 UTC  

But verbal diarrhea is a thing

2020-11-12 15:57:47 UTC  

he knows he didnt.

2020-11-12 15:58:01 UTC  

she says to the cops: "I took photos. I will send them."

2020-11-12 15:58:08 UTC  

dumb cop says: "great!"

2020-11-12 15:58:11 UTC  

It is impossible for me to measure the rates of verbal diarrhea versus this sort of situation

2020-11-12 15:58:28 UTC  

he says: "I will not speak until I have representation"

2020-11-12 15:58:48 UTC  

court says 9 months later: "the only evidence we have are these photos"

2020-11-12 15:58:55 UTC  

Ok well

2020-11-12 15:59:03 UTC  

I challenge you then to

2020-11-12 15:59:12 UTC  

Find a short catchy sentence

2020-11-12 15:59:20 UTC  

Which encapsulates what you just said

2020-11-12 15:59:23 UTC  

I did.

2020-11-12 15:59:32 UTC  

"If you represent yourself, your client is an idiot"

2020-11-12 15:59:44 UTC  

lol

2020-11-12 16:00:00 UTC  

But that doesn't really get the message across

2020-11-12 16:00:20 UTC  

It doesn't stop verbal diarrhea without also ensuring evidence is collected

2020-11-12 16:00:33 UTC  

it does not. Its a complicated world. You cant tell people: "point out to the cops what you think is relevant" They will not understand.

2020-11-12 16:01:02 UTC  

"Buy Ayoob's book"

2020-11-12 16:01:28 UTC  

and I agree that shutting up is *probably* more sound in a majority of cases where you are, or will have to expect to be, the defendant.

2020-11-12 16:02:08 UTC  

but I know a couple of guys who might have made it out, had they only said: "tell your guys I want her processed as well. She attacked me. I defended myself."

2020-11-12 16:02:27 UTC  

mhm

2020-11-12 16:03:08 UTC  

Id like to hear the Boss on this one, but I suspect him to be a busy man. Idealists often are.

2020-11-12 16:06:45 UTC  

If you own a gun

2020-11-12 16:06:50 UTC  

Or even if you don't

2020-11-12 16:06:50 UTC  

I do

2020-11-12 16:06:58 UTC  

You definitely want to read brancas book

2020-11-12 16:07:01 UTC  

And ayoob's

2020-11-12 16:07:07 UTC  

well, non appliable here.

2020-11-12 16:07:10 UTC  

Yea

2020-11-12 16:07:14 UTC  

US only

2020-11-12 16:07:23 UTC  

There is no circumstance at all, under our laws, where I can use my gun to defend myself and get away with it.