he has already

Well he's not walking, he's on 2m bond.

Kinda far from walking.

He still risks life in prison.

Meant convicted

Everyone says he will best the charges. I dont see that.

Im pretty sure, if it was a black teenager attacked by nazi skinheads, he would have walked.

For some reason a 17 y.o. wanna-be cop and paramedic shooting communists, is judged differently.

I think he'll for sure beat the murder charges.

Other charges remain to be seen.

this would be the time to settle if he could while the rest are look at the elections

Particularly reckless endangerment.

lol

And the weapons-related charges.

@Doc and the black teenager knew Nazis were in another state rioting and willingly went in with a deadly weapon and killed 2 people?

hard charges

@Benny2Toes That would not be the narrative.

mandatory min

@Benny2Toes But that is the narrative now.

The truth is; the kid wanted to be a cop so bad he could not wait. He also wanted to be a paramedic. He wanted to be someone. And had no idea how the world works.

Yup

A good analogy I've heard toward this idea: If an underage woman had a concealed handgun, and went to a bar illegally and then there was an attempted rape on her person and she used a firearm in self defense, would we consider this murder?

She shouldn't have been there.

here? Yes. In the US? Probably not.

im still have not a great understanding on some of the laws..like endangerment little loss on the understanding

Confrontation was very much a possibility.

She brought a gun.

exactly. Planning a self defense situation will terminate any such claim here.

by definition.

Your laws, however, are different.

what happens if its ok to be there

You are allowed to plan self defense and still claim it.

whats plan mean

It would be more like a woman going into a bar knowing an attempted rape was likely or eminent, then claiming self defense.

I don't think he was planning to use his firearm.

ya dont think that would work

@osok if you carry a knife here, and claim you carried it in self defense, the court will say; "if you knew the situation could get dangerous and still approached it .- that is not self defense"

they could but if you carrie all time and its lawful

Also, what you're saying is that because he went out with a gun, he also forfeits his right to live.

That doesn't really matter. But assuming it did, of course he did. He might have thought it would deter violence but he had a loaded firearm at a riot. Ignorance can not be claimed here, IMO.

Because he made a dumb mistake.