Message from @realz

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2020-12-03 22:15:44 UTC  

Ok. Well unless they participated there is no issue. As if not for covid this hearing would have been in a court room open to the public and those lawyers could sit and watch like anyone else. The transcript to the hearing is also available

2020-12-03 22:16:37 UTC  

Just like we did

2020-12-03 22:16:43 UTC  

I wrote a very short brief of the hearing.

2020-12-03 22:16:57 UTC  

Thankies

2020-12-03 22:17:04 UTC  

Did you include the faceplant and Kyles dive?

2020-12-03 22:17:07 UTC  

Motions to dismiss charges 6 and 2 (Minor in possession of a firearm - Wis. Statute ยง 948.60 (2)(a)) & (Reckless endangerment in the first degree of Richie McGinniss - Wis. Statute ยง 941.30 (1)) were denied, but the arguments were heard due to the state accepting argument at this time.

Defense claimed that Rittenhouse was not wielding an SBR (short barreled rifle) nor a short-barreled shotgun, and therefore was exempt from liability to 948.60(2)(a), by referring to 948.60(3)(c) exemption. The defense was heard and prosecution countered that this defense was heard and denied prior to appealing this again. The state concurred that Mr. Rittenhouse was not hunting (as defense stated in their argument, specifically that the defendant was not hunting) and therefore the motion to dismiss charge 6 was considered moot as the 948.60(3)(c) exemption is specifically in reference to compliance to hunting regulations (compliance requires you to be hunting, if you're to be compliant of hunting regulations). The court concurred with the state, and the motion to dismiss was denied.

Defense claimed that Mr. McGinniss was not provably in danger, and made the mistaken claim that there wasn't any suggestion nor inference that McGinnis was ever in the line of fire from the complaint itself. The state countered that there was in fact language in the complaint that said explicitly that Mr. McGinnis was in the line of fire, and this was proven to be accurate upon reciting the paragraph in question within the original complaint. I believe the state at this point suggested to the defense that this is a preliminary hearing and not a trial, and the bringing of affirmative defenses were not appropriate to the standard of probable cause at this time. The court agreed, and charge 2's motion to dismiss was denied.

2020-12-03 22:17:16 UTC  

The state brought on their one and only witness, Detective Antaramian of the Kenosha Police department.
The defense had extra witnesses, but were willing to use the state's witness as long as they proved to be reliable upon cross-examination.
Cross-examination took place and the witness was questioned on 12 exhibits of screenshots of publicly available video evidence.
Upon completing cross-examination the defense was satisfied with the state's witness, and required bringing forth no other witnesses.

State claimed probable cause was established and requested bind over of the defendant, the defense disagreed.
Court ruled in favor of the state, and concluded that the case should go to trial.

Defense did not request a substitution of the trial judge.

2020-12-03 22:19:43 UTC  

@Maw awesome. Can I hire you? ๐Ÿ˜„

2020-12-03 22:20:26 UTC  

Yeppers... probable cause is such a low standard. And since he is out on bail he probably should want probable cause found.

The way it works in this state is crazy. If a person is arrested on a felony and they have a preliminary hearing and the judge finds NO Probable Cause, thus dismissing the case - The Prosecutor could choose to get an indictment and since the other case was dismissed the defendant would be arrested again and have to post another bond.

2020-12-03 22:20:58 UTC  

@Doc Maybe!

2020-12-03 23:04:55 UTC  

I must admit, I lol'd at Grosskreutz falling off the chair

2020-12-03 23:04:59 UTC  

or maybe the chair broke? not sure

2020-12-03 23:05:28 UTC  

on painkillers maybe?

2020-12-03 23:05:46 UTC  

that might explain the vacant stare

2020-12-03 23:25:53 UTC  

Wow yeah... look at those pupils definitely on downers

2020-12-03 23:30:19 UTC  

lol

2020-12-03 23:30:26 UTC  

no one else seemed to notice

2020-12-03 23:31:32 UTC  

he's like on the floor for 50 seconds

2020-12-03 23:31:32 UTC  

@realz, you just advanced to level 21!

2020-12-03 23:31:40 UTC  

and no one is calling 911 or even reacting

2020-12-03 23:31:47 UTC  

wat is going on here

2020-12-03 23:32:13 UTC  

well, Kyle reacted.

2020-12-03 23:32:17 UTC  

He is a smart kid.

2020-12-03 23:33:02 UTC  

Kyle is there?

2020-12-03 23:33:55 UTC  

He was 16 when the shooting took place right?

2020-12-03 23:34:10 UTC  

17

2020-12-03 23:34:15 UTC  

Ah, gotcha.

2020-12-03 23:35:09 UTC  

Iโ€™m over here at 25 and I would have had way less trigger discipline in that situation. The dude had nerves of steel.
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2020-12-03 23:35:24 UTC  

@realz ya, he dives under the councils desk.

2020-12-03 23:35:34 UTC  

rofl that's Kyle

2020-12-03 23:35:41 UTC  

very clever boy

2020-12-03 23:35:47 UTC  

the Richards smiles

2020-12-03 23:35:57 UTC  

noooo! its a jawn. ๐Ÿ˜„

2020-12-03 23:36:04 UTC  

lol

2020-12-03 23:36:13 UTC  

i don even

2020-12-03 23:36:15 UTC  

this is too good

2020-12-03 23:36:23 UTC  

I suspect kyle was tearing up

2020-12-03 23:36:23 UTC  

this isn't supposed to be funny

2020-12-03 23:36:30 UTC  

oh yea that totally makes sense