Message from @AntiFish03
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We're usually talking about reckless endangerment that is a cause of actions of self defense.
That's some pretty round-the-bend interpretation.
Also that's self defense yes, from what you've established as facts thus far.
We're clearly talking about endangerment that is caused in the act of self defense.
So endangerment of those around or in the general area.
I would think that should be a high bar.... like in Rittenhouse..... Politics aside (the idiot should not have been there).....
BUT
From the limited video I have seen and the first portion of the PH I have no clue how we could justifiably find that Kyle acted recklessly in firing a weapon in a crowd if it is determined that he fired out of self defense.
I must admit that I have not see all of the information here.
I am also a public school teacher wishes to smack people who bitch about permits, back ground checks and waiting periods as being just too much to ask - while I watch my students participate in Active Shooter Drills. Or feel uncomfortable because Paul Blart with an attitude problem is our resource officer who clearly gets off on the fact he has the ability to physically restrain students..... BUT......
Is under NO duty to protect them. (one has to ask why they are even there)
Kyle did not fire into a crowd. He only shot those presenting a direct danger to himself. One of those was a miss on a skateboard attacker.
Yes he should not have been there.
Many diff pundits and some of those lawyers have emphasized the restraint Kyle had in his limited fire.
License, permits, back ground checks and waiting periods are all barriers to an enumerated right recognized in the bill of rights.
There should never be a barrier for anyone who would defend the weak amongst us.
Should a single one of the people there have “been there” that night? If not, they should all be facing the same charges.
I don't know how you can just if Kyle should have been there that night in the moral sense without knowing the situation. It was foolish of him though.
IMO Kyle shouldn’t have been there. It was a very bad decision for him to go to Kenosha. Nonetheless, it appears to me after reviewing the video footage that Kyle was acting in a non-legal sense in self defense.
If he was there at the request of a friend in need, wouldn't helping out be the right thing to do?
Kenosha is Kyle's back yard. Works there and has friends.
The ask made sense to Kyle.
Interpreting that Kyle baught the rifle via strawman. That is going to haunt him if true.
The long gun put a target on him for retaliation for snuffing a dumpster.
An instigator fired a shot as he witnessed Kyle and #1 thug cornering causing Kyle to defend.
I don't think anyone is justifying presence.
The self defense claim is not voided for other technical errors.
Possible valid charges from my clearance grade cheap seat:
Straw purchase
17 yo with longarm in public
The irony of this is that the reason mr. Rittenhouse got isolated and hunted, was because he stayed behind to render aid to the enemy.
The part of the training needed to be a combat medic he obviously did NOT acquire.
That is one way to see it, yes.
@Tneedels, you just advanced to level 3!
He should not have been alone, being solo like that is what really drew the idiots to him. If you're by your self in a situation like that then you are really up shits creek without a paddle. I did a lot for my community when I was 16-22 lifeguard, military, LEO. I could have seen myself in a similar situation. It would have been easy to get drawn into when you want to make a difference in your community and have your first chance to make a mark on your world and the place you want to live.
I concur on all those statements, and agree. That was the only point i was going to make, until i decided just to walk away. lol
Have been biting my lip since 2017, and it's getting hard
2009**
Well, don't know what LEO may be , but lifeguard, military, community service etc.
10-4
No, never went police . . My brother, and best friend both usmc as well. non police after 😛
I got hurt at MCRD San Diego
Easy to do
Brother was a champion cross country and played basketball, football, baseball, band. . had a lung collapse during MOS
I found the express route down mount mother fucker on the crucible... Was medevaced to balboa...
@AntiFish03, you just advanced to level 10!
o0o.. ouch
Fucker has taken a few, almost got me two. leg got all hemmed up bout took a break. don't know how it didnt snap
Yeah don't remember it... I was out cold I passed out from the exhaustion. Double flack, double pack and dragging my platoons F-up up the mountain...
At the time I thought I was doing what I should as a squad leader... Failed to delegate his gear to others and tried to carry it all myself.
Lol. lmmfao
That's about it. Also, gotta know when you're past the limit
Well I found it and then some. I learned a valuable lesson from that
I believe that, sucks at the expense though. However, there's a reason. . I believe, whether we know it or not.
Something tore my best friend up pretty good. He did 4 tours, they all changed him, as they do. 2nd was rough, for both, but he suffered survivors guilt pretty heavy. 3rd, was worse, never did share the details, but only 1 thing in my mind could have hit him harder than first combat or thinking you should have died instead of another. Glad i was out before that.
That's the stuff a lot of folks don't get. Missed birthdays, holidays, anniversaries, family growing up and going through life. Not being able to be at a family gathering for years when you come home. Coming home, and everyone wants a hug right off the plane, and you can't tell your mom and dad not to touch you.
@Tneedels, you just advanced to level 4!
Something I never experienced... Since I was ELS'd from boot because recovery time was greater than 9 months
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