Message from @DeathRhodes666
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@mtpockets59 Thanks for checking. Why are you talking to a liberal? You might end up indoctrinated.
Zuluzeit heard back again and she is changing her story. She said it was on the news for a couple of days. So... indoctrination that would be impossible. She is good looking hahaha
Yup they’ve been shared already
Both?
Yup
Okay cool. I'll remove mine then! Appreciated
Been really behind.
So... Wayne County canvassers concerned about integrity were harassed by their compatriots to certify the vote on the grounds that the poll books never match... Seems reasonable
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/nov/17/wayne-county-michigan-reverses-course-certifies-el/
> So... Wayne County canvassers concerned about integrity were harassed by their compatriots to certify the vote on the grounds that the poll books never match... Seems reasonable
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> https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/nov/17/wayne-county-michigan-reverses-course-certifies-el/
@stevesirag I would investigate that because that’s exactly what they were trying to prevent from happening. I honestly am starting to believe there is a larger conspiracy a foot.
I believe a low level of fraud has always been endemic to the system, but this year it has been cranked up to 11 with the Trump=Hitler rhetoric and the moratoria on standard fraud checks such as signature matching. Interested in the larger conspiracy claims as well, but so far skeptical, still to be proven.
The more philosophical question: how much fraud + failed checks and balances has to be proven before we doubt we know who won?
The problem with moratoria on fraud detection/prevention laws is that the line for that question is lowered considerably. IE: if we have no signature matching, and we uncover a few dozen examples of vote stuffing, we can be confident there is more, possibly a lot more. If there is assiduous signature matching, we can be confident that most fraud was caught.
With the Detroit poll book thing, I heard a report that 70% of the poll books don't add up. Is that normal?? And if so, what's the point of poll books or canvassing boards if we just say that looks ok to me?
With the mail-in ballot thing, we have an explosion in the rate of voting by mail, combined with a precipitous drop in the rate of acceptance failure. Both should track upwards in the normal case.
Just to insert my two cents here; with everything going on, the allegations and evidence coming out, the inability for this election to even come close to being reasonable when viewed through common sense lenses, and the overall background of the past 4-5 years of outright abhorrent behavior towards the president (and really any other person not of the left-leaning affiliation), I have little to no faith in this country's election process.
Yes, abhorrent behavior is something we should all eschew and condemn, Mr. Pot.
We should, that's why I'll call out the same on the right-leaning side too.
Although when you compare the two relevant to this election, the left-leaning groups are currently the ones to be more wary of. I mean, they more-or-less harassed vote officials in Wayne County to certify results. Although making kidnap plots against sitting elected representatives (e.g. Gov. Whitmer) is also something to worry about
I'm less sure about of whom to be more wary than I am about criticism of the president being a sketchy premise for an argument fraud claims.
Yeah, criticism of anything doesn't come across as a valid premise.
Criticism of the president equaling an argument for fraud claims (i believe what you're getting at) is also doodoo.
> Although when you compare the two relevant to this election, the left-leaning groups are currently the ones to be more wary of. I mean, they more-or-less harassed vote officials in Wayne County to certify results. Although making kidnap plots against sitting elected representatives (e.g. Gov. Whitmer) is also something to worry about
@DeathRhodes666 There's no evidence these guys were influenced by 'the right'... from all indications they were anarchists, antifa types
You know what, I do remember a video of the suspects where one of them said "F*** Trump" I believe. I'll have to dig up the video or articles to be sure.
We all make a big mistake when thinking everything is binary. Elections are binary unfortunately. Everything else comes from all directions. Just because they wanted to hurt Witmer doesn't mean they were Republicans, right-wing or Trumpistas
> @DeathRhodes666 There's no evidence these guys were influenced by 'the right'... from all indications they were anarchists, antifa types
@stevesirag this isn't true
@DeathRhodes666 I mean, it could show motive but that would certainly extend to clearly uninvolved parties, such as myself, and 'The Left' isn't a pragmatically tenable suspect. Also, every offense perpetrated against entities which I have criticized should have landed me in jail by now. Lol
There is plenty of evidence just Google it
Lots of right wingers say f trump
I'm a libertarian, I say it every day
Antifa types aren't going to be taking pictures with confederate flags or say "liberty or death"
(they are pretty explcitly "anti liberal" in the freedom sense)
This line of argument seems like bad faith tbqh
Saying "f trump" is not a sign of jack shit, every extremist (for good or bad) becomes a purist of some kind and denounces their milktoast leaders as not pure enough; does that mean they are of the _opposing_ side?
Some of the suspects are former military, and have expressed support for qanon or other stuff publicly
Can you see a "antifa types" doing that?
This line of argument just doesn't make any sense
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