Message from @james j

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2020-11-20 15:15:40 UTC  

we can only take what's been said on the phone call at their word, anything else is speculation.

2020-11-20 15:16:05 UTC  

so far it's interesting to see what can be contested and what can't.

2020-11-20 15:16:26 UTC  

What new precedents might be established by a judge on hearing this matter

2020-11-20 15:16:55 UTC  

duress may or may not prove to be an exception in that case

2020-11-20 15:17:31 UTC  

Im going off what the election offical said in regards to one county being more out of balance and being fine with certifying that but not Wayne county which was less out of balance. Not to mention being out of balance is not a criteria used to not certify because out of balance counties happen every election and hey get certified anyways.

2020-11-20 15:18:11 UTC  

Duress has nothing to do with this

2020-11-20 15:18:33 UTC  

and whatever their real intentions are at this point, they do have video evidence to support their sworn testimonies that they felt threatened at the cost of their own safety and their families when they made the decision, so it's ultimately a matter of what a judge will determine on that

2020-11-20 15:19:08 UTC  

Yeah their feelings carries less weight then their actions and rationale they gave being contradictory

2020-11-20 15:19:10 UTC  

have they certified Wayne County yet?

2020-11-20 15:19:19 UTC  

I haven't seen any updates so far

2020-11-20 15:19:29 UTC  

It has

2020-11-20 15:19:47 UTC  

Its just political theater on their part

2020-11-20 15:19:52 UTC  

Then it's likely that will stand, even after being contested.

2020-11-20 15:19:57 UTC  

The election officials that is

2020-11-20 15:20:01 UTC  

but you'll wannah hear this

2020-11-20 15:20:04 UTC  

new update in PA

2020-11-20 15:20:09 UTC  

Ok

2020-11-20 15:20:37 UTC  

appeals court in PA is stopping election officials in one county from counting ballots that came in envelops with no marked dates

2020-11-20 15:20:53 UTC  

New ballots coming in?

2020-11-20 15:21:06 UTC  

no, likely ones that were segregated with no marked dates

2020-11-20 15:21:12 UTC  

Oh yeah the whole naked ballot thing

2020-11-20 15:21:32 UTC  

They were ruling on that before the election

2020-11-20 15:21:40 UTC  

it doesn't say whether or not they will certify or tabulate, just that the process is on hold for now

2020-11-20 15:21:54 UTC  

Republican gop lawmakers were trying to invalidate those

2020-11-20 15:22:05 UTC  

Before the election

2020-11-20 15:22:35 UTC  

Actually it was state secretary I think who tried to extend the mail-in ballot deadline,

2020-11-20 15:22:36 UTC  

@Adam135, you just advanced to level 6!

2020-11-20 15:23:01 UTC  

but it got overturned by a court order because that decision only belongs to the state legislature

2020-11-20 15:23:15 UTC  

so it isn't even what rule they added or changed, it was who changed it.

2020-11-20 15:24:22 UTC  

Im talking about the naked ballot thing not extending the deadline

2020-11-20 15:24:50 UTC  

The extended deadline thing only effects 10000 voted

2020-11-20 15:25:20 UTC  

I assume a naked ballot is only one that hasn't been marked with a date?

2020-11-20 15:25:24 UTC  

No

2020-11-20 15:25:35 UTC  

It has something to do with the envelope

2020-11-20 15:26:08 UTC  

Also how can a envelope not have a date

2020-11-20 15:26:08 UTC  

oh yeah, it's missing an outer secrecy envelope

2020-11-20 15:26:28 UTC  

I guess maybe if it was dropped in a ballot box

2020-11-20 15:26:40 UTC  

But all the ballots are collected on a certain date

2020-11-20 15:26:56 UTC  

The post office usually marks dates on envelopes

2020-11-20 15:27:05 UTC  

the language of the law is vague on the court order

2020-11-20 15:27:25 UTC  

I don't know if it's mailed in by election day or must be received by election day