If you say something that cant be disproven or is just a opinion that doesn’t carry much weight. Thats why many of these affidavits weren’t even used in court @Maw

For instance, cops lie on affidavits all the time but it has to be shown to have an affect in order to be a crime. Maybe the Kraken dream team knows to not present them at a certain point and are only gathering them as a propaganda tool, knowing they will never be seen in court.

Js

@Zuluzeit exactly its just theater

I believe that's specifically called a 'material lie', Zulu.

In legalese. lol

Lol damn lawyerspeak

There is a lot of shifting goalposts it seems here though.

Again, I'm only stating that affidavits that are valid have been signed under oath in front of a notary.

When filed with the court.

Yes, the narrative has certainly evolved a lot for something which was claimed to be rock solid every step of the way.

I dont think anyone disagrees with that @Maw My take is that the court wont go after them but the lawyer can if he chooses to and feels like he was lied to. That maybe untrue ill have to find where I saw that

@james j, you just advanced to level 5!

That's not the same as filing an affidavit with the court though, @james j

Oh, if a person shows up in court and contradicts what was on their affidavit, it's not their lawyer of whom they should be most afraid.

Well my bigger point is that the lawyers themselves knew and felt the affidavits they were presenting to the court were full of lies and spam according to the article I linked. @Maw

And no one got in trouble

If the court enters discovery and has proof of a material lie on your affidavit filed with the court, believe me when I say your lawyer is the least of your concerns.

Lmao

@james j The mental gymnastics that Russ Ramsland does to infer shenanigans in 2020 is pretty significant. His whole thesis is based on the idea that voting was stopped at battleground states during the night of the election. This is a false assumption based on a FB post that went viral election night. Election workers have signed affidavits stating that they worked continuously through the night. The problem came in the slow down in reported vote counts. This was because those states were not allowed to start processing mail-in ballots until the polls closed. States like FL, TX, and CA allowed preprocessing of the mail-in ballots ahead of time - and some allowed counting to start early. The battleground states did not allow processing of mail-in ballots ahead of time. This includes the tedious signature verification and voter validation process. In any case, Ramsland believes that it is suspicious that counting stopped when it didn't. All other assertions are based off this assumptions.

I think all those cases were thrown out without getting to discovery

Dunno if it specifically has to be during discovery, it could potentially happen after dismissal as well.

It could happen at any point I imagine.

@TaLoN132 yeah, I agree. I hope somehow at the very least you (people in general not specifically you) can get some hard core trump supporters who believe the election was stolen to acknowledge that

Gonna say counting volume in FL, CA and TX might be a greater burden than elsewhere. Lol. We'd still be waiting.

As it's in the record.

@Zuluzeit We are still waiting...

No, the counts are in. We are waiting to placate the incredulous.

Everyone knew about the red mirage , I don’t get why people are surprised to wake up to see different results.

All this is seems to be the result of a rush to get through the process.

I mean, there absolutely has been some sus-as-heck things that happened in this election.

States decide how to assess the will of their people. I imagine they thought things through and didn't err on the side of expediency, although I'm sure it was a consideration.

I meant they are still counting in CA... where I live. Actually, they may have finished yesterday. NY still is only at 86%.

But the idea that this is one big conspiracy as Rudy and Powell say leaves me saying "pics or it didn't happen"

No more sus than another election

Lol send pics

Have to br patient. It may be someone has evidence. Not a whole lot that can be done without damning evidence at this point imho.

Old internet adage Zulu.

"pics or it didn't happen. A phrase used on Internet forums to counter the vast range of unverifiable claims made by users"

Oh snap. Had no idea CA ran that late. Foregone conclusion anyway but damn.

@Maw I am guessing that there are questionable things that happen at every election. It is woefully dependent on humans to do the leg work. People get tired and make mistakes. They get lazy and cut corners. And there are some that are dumb and try to game the system, but, so far, those seem to have been fairly limited.