Message from @William Dinan

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2020-11-25 17:52:42 UTC  

So 20-28 minutes into the 11/20 stream was when people got pissy about whatever Rob was saying.

2020-11-25 17:52:51 UTC  

Oh, different timezone.

2020-11-25 17:53:11 UTC  

Yeah sorry. Lol. That's why I rephrased.

2020-11-25 17:53:18 UTC  

So after he made the case for both sides and gave his opinion on likely the first topic.

2020-11-25 17:53:47 UTC  

I think it was 2nd or 3rd but yeah, it was early on.

2020-11-25 17:54:12 UTC  

This was the Kraken stream right?

2020-11-25 17:54:24 UTC  

It blew my mind how people can turn instantly like that. Intolerance to criticism.

2020-11-25 17:54:42 UTC  

Frei just suffered the same thing

2020-11-25 17:54:47 UTC  

I'll look. Kraken was out by then, yes.

2020-11-25 17:54:54 UTC  

Frei and Evil Barnes

2020-11-25 17:55:26 UTC  

Well, it's a dangerous game indulging these things. It's like the frog carrying the scorpion across the pond.

2020-11-25 17:55:37 UTC  

Realz, you didn’t read what I said. I said pretend it is true. Your response is assuming it’s not true.

2020-11-25 17:55:56 UTC  

We hit a lot of milestones last week, so it's hard to say which stream it was a week later for me.

2020-11-25 17:56:07 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771201221145919499/781216667082031154/Screenshot_20201125-125544.png

2020-11-25 17:56:54 UTC  

Unfortunately, I feel like a lot of viewers don't understand the nuanced approach Robert takes with giving both sides

2020-11-25 17:57:04 UTC  

So they flip-flop thinking it's proving/disproving.

2020-11-25 17:57:56 UTC  

@NKwasTHERE

I wasn't responding to what you said, I didn't notice what you said. Welcome to discord, btw if you want to catch someone's attention, start typing `@nickname` and click on the name in the dropdown list.

2020-11-25 17:57:59 UTC  

@NKwasTHERE There aren't many Americans who would say 'Let it go.'

2020-11-25 17:58:10 UTC  

Perhaps a lot of these people are only half-listening.

2020-11-25 17:58:40 UTC  

@Maw it is like trying to interpret a Supreme Court Justices Questions at Oral Arguments.... Good Luck!

2020-11-25 17:58:59 UTC  

I think people are blurring the lines between understanding and liking. It's dangerous.

2020-11-25 17:59:54 UTC  

Or equivocating them or something

2020-11-25 17:59:58 UTC  

The reason I say that is because the amount of "you don't know what you're talking about, this is misinformation"

2020-11-25 18:00:08 UTC  

When he's just giving both sides.

2020-11-25 18:00:25 UTC  

I think they incorrectly attribute it to his opinion.

2020-11-25 18:00:45 UTC  

Yes, I think that is symptomatic of what I was saying above. It's frustrating.

2020-11-25 18:01:31 UTC  

I myself was an unknowing CCP operative. I was quite surprised when I found out.

2020-11-25 18:02:06 UTC  

@NKwasTHERE

I still think it has a possibility of being "true", but these lawyers were saying that the _court_ cases seemed doomed to failure. that is an honest assessment.

As to your question about what people should do?

First, it depends on _what_ is true. A lot of the things people are still saying with a lot of surety has been outright debunked. Most people throwing this stuff around are throwing around outright debunked stuff so it is hard for me to take it seriously, because if they are so sure of themselves then it is going to be hard to talk to them.

But let's assume that one more things are true, then what they are supposed to _do_ is curate _convincing proof_ (not what they have done yet). Evil Robert (Barnes) has a bunch of pathways to Trump winning so long as there is convincing proof to convince enough Republican Legislatures or Republican Governors or House Delegations or Electoral College Electors to take drastic measures.

If all that fails, then perhaps there can be talk of how to avoid some confusion, warranted or not, in the future.

2020-11-25 18:02:55 UTC  

And I think that might be a case of he doesn't show you the other side with a bad-faith interpretation.

2020-11-25 18:03:01 UTC  

Like a lot of commentators will.

2020-11-25 18:03:04 UTC  

And even if it were his opinion...It has no bearing on listening to the ideas presented on both sides.

2020-11-25 18:03:30 UTC  

He's understanding of opposing views rather than mocking.

2020-11-25 18:03:32 UTC  

Yes, exactly Maw

2020-11-25 18:04:05 UTC  

lol Giuliani is making a lot of interesting statements

2020-11-25 18:04:25 UTC  

Mail in ballots that were returned before, the day of and the day after, being mailed out?

2020-11-25 18:04:43 UTC  

where can I find more info about this

2020-11-25 18:04:49 UTC  

Is the viva “I’m just a Canadian lawyer” grift getting harder to manage?

2020-11-25 18:05:13 UTC  

?

2020-11-25 18:05:28 UTC  

@realz u should @ that girl, yo. She might miss it.

2020-11-25 18:05:43 UTC  

I think viva is a grifter, very inconsistent and targeted with his outrage