When he's just giving both sides.

I think they incorrectly attribute it to his opinion.

Yes, I think that is symptomatic of what I was saying above. It's frustrating.

I myself was an unknowing CCP operative. I was quite surprised when I found out.

@NKwasTHERE

I still think it has a possibility of being "true", but these lawyers were saying that the _court_ cases seemed doomed to failure. that is an honest assessment.

As to your question about what people should do?

First, it depends on _what_ is true. A lot of the things people are still saying with a lot of surety has been outright debunked. Most people throwing this stuff around are throwing around outright debunked stuff so it is hard for me to take it seriously, because if they are so sure of themselves then it is going to be hard to talk to them.

But let's assume that one more things are true, then what they are supposed to _do_ is curate _convincing proof_ (not what they have done yet). Evil Robert (Barnes) has a bunch of pathways to Trump winning so long as there is convincing proof to convince enough Republican Legislatures or Republican Governors or House Delegations or Electoral College Electors to take drastic measures.

If all that fails, then perhaps there can be talk of how to avoid some confusion, warranted or not, in the future.

And I think that might be a case of he doesn't show you the other side with a bad-faith interpretation.

Like a lot of commentators will.

And even if it were his opinion...It has no bearing on listening to the ideas presented on both sides.

He's understanding of opposing views rather than mocking.

Yes, exactly Maw

lol Giuliani is making a lot of interesting statements

Mail in ballots that were returned before, the day of and the day after, being mailed out?

where can I find more info about this

Is the viva “I’m just a Canadian lawyer” grift getting harder to manage?

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@realz u should @ that girl, yo. She might miss it.

I think viva is a grifter, very inconsistent and targeted with his outrage

@Zuluzeit it was a reply, that automagically ats, or so I thought

edited in the at

Let's be a little more polite about other content creators in the community, the last thing we want is youtube drama.

what is a grifter exactly?

he's a right wing lawyer

you are expecting a partisan to not be partisan ?

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Gritter is a hustler. Opportunist. Scam artist

Viva to me is a guy who interviews Barnes

yes I know what Grifter _means_

@realz. Basically a Con Man.

I mean what does it mean _here_

Not saying anyone is that but that's what a grifter is.

who is Viva scamming, why do you assume he is in bad faith (only taking his opinions as an opportunist would) etc.

Lol yes. Con man. I'm always just missing something perfect

In the context of a YouTuber Someone who takes advantage of a particular audience for monetizing , placates to them and provides unbalanced commentary, while pretending to be. Like Tim pool. I don’t believe he actually believes what he says but orchestrates it for a particular audience @realz

I think we should personally drop this topic of conversation.

what is he inconsistent about, and why do you think a partisan should target their rage evenly

mmmk, I don't think he is taking positions he doesn't believe in

and we are literally bringing this up in context of him losing a portion of his audience

I think 'grifter' in this context means exploiting credulous people with things to which you know they will respond well, as opposed to what you believe or can support sufficiently to yourself

Inconsistent in outrage. I’m fine with going after cnn but he wouldn’t dare go after any right wing news (he knows his audience likes) with the same intensity and outrage. Even though the gripe he has occurs there as well @realz

To a greater degree in some cases

meh I don't expect partisans to go after their own side