I just consider myself a theist.

Grew up Christian. Didn't take.

As a Christian...Christmas is a joke to me. It’s completely blasphemous

The church has only officially recognized the worship aspect of celebrating Christ's Mass. The rest of it all predates Christianity. Probably even the commercialization. 😉

Anything other than precisely what a person follows is blasphemous.

Grew up christian, started investigating. That did its job.

Lol same @Doc

Opposite happened to me.

I am a lapsed Catholic... Just couldn't get over the child sex abuse scandal.

@thebrodys accidents happen

no worries

This is getting off topic for the room

indeed

For sure.

but its thanksgiving now.

If they didn't put so much emphasis in the Catholic structure as a component of salvation, they would have done themselves a favor in a modern context, yes. @TaLoN132

"They started it..."

I grew up Christian.. I don’t know what I believe tbh but I like to believe in heaven, an lost love ones looking down on us... Randomly jumping in here 🙋🏼‍♀️

@TaLoN132 pedofiles are everywhere. More in sports than the catholic church, but noone is blaming soccer.

That would be super, for sure. @Beth

Catholicism is not a Christian religion..no matter how much people want to think it is

And Boy Scouts, apparently.

It’s a nice thought

@Beth Heaven sounds like hell to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV5w262XvCU&t

Not sure it invalidates the precepts though. 'No true Scotsman'

Until the 16th Century, it was the only (western) Christian religion.

@thebrodys every christian claims their version is the right one. It seems to be a huge part of abrahamittic religions to be the one with the right understanding.

@Doc Valhalla, then?

Js behavior of authoritative adherents isn't the test. It fails spectacularly otherwise, anyway.

yes, please! @TaLoN132 '

If pedophilia were some property of the faith, then you'd have a beef on those grounds.

Ground beef, if you will.

@Zuluzeit, you just advanced to level 19!

I get that argument But to be Christian is to know and believe Christ as your Savior. Not the pope not the priests, not Mary and not any of the Saints. Only Christ and in Christ alone.

as described by the 7 councils, yes. I know.

and everyone has a version of how that is achieved, based on what text they like the best.

I for one, dont understand what I need to be saved from.

Why am I under threat in the first place?

Doesn’t even have the same Bible as Christianity

But by that argument, belief in the church heirarchy is irrelevant...you're good as long as you also believe in Jesus. @thebrodys

there are 80 different books all claiming to be christian.