Message from @realz

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2020-11-27 05:42:10 UTC  

that's all

2020-11-27 05:42:26 UTC  

the fact that scalia's seat was to be flipped would mean something very significant, that's all she is saying

2020-11-27 05:43:01 UTC  

She was downplaying the fact that it would have changed the balance of the court, because the more important issue to her was that it was HIS seat as the face of their approach.

2020-11-27 05:43:03 UTC  

she is really explaining elementary level politics

2020-11-27 05:43:16 UTC  

yes

2020-11-27 05:43:21 UTC  

but she wasn't saying Obama _can't_ change it

2020-11-27 05:43:27 UTC  

nor that he _shouldn't_

2020-11-27 05:43:36 UTC  

she was saying that when he did change it, it would be a huge shift

2020-11-27 05:43:56 UTC  

she is really just being descriptive in all her projections

2020-11-27 05:44:17 UTC  

she goes on to talk about who clinton would choose, or trump would choose

2020-11-27 05:44:27 UTC  

just trying to project the future of the court in each case

2020-11-27 05:44:35 UTC  

She is just advocating for originalist approach. Which I still don’t really get but I don’t misteadcwhat she is trying ti say ..

2020-11-27 05:44:54 UTC  

My point was that RGB was every bit the icon Scalia was - arguably more - and she was happy to ignore her lofty concerns about affecting the balance or replacing an icon with someone that was not of a similar philosophy. I felt it was hypocritical and did not bode well for her integrity.

2020-11-27 05:44:57 UTC  

she wasn't even advocating for it

2020-11-27 05:45:02 UTC  

she was just saying that it would be a shift

2020-11-27 05:45:19 UTC  

what

2020-11-27 05:45:36 UTC  

I don't know what your objection is, but I suspect I would not agree with it

2020-11-27 05:45:47 UTC  

molehill => mountain is what this feels like

2020-11-27 05:46:03 UTC  

RGB is an icon for judicial activism

2020-11-27 05:46:06 UTC  

^

2020-11-27 05:46:24 UTC  

she was assuming RGB would be replaced by Clinton

2020-11-27 05:46:28 UTC  

it wouldn't be a change at all

2020-11-27 05:46:59 UTC  

she is talking about activist vs textualist/originalist

2020-11-27 05:47:07 UTC  

And I don't think there's a deeper meaning to choosing scalia. ACB could have just as easily chosen RGB as well. She simply chose not to

2020-11-27 05:47:22 UTC  

she is a fan of scalia

2020-11-27 05:47:26 UTC  

obviously

2020-11-27 05:47:30 UTC  

I don't see the issue

2020-11-27 05:47:32 UTC  

Any decision that checks legislation could be viewed as activism, but isn't that the point of the court? To be a check to ensure balance?

2020-11-27 05:47:50 UTC  

That checks legislation on what grounds

2020-11-27 05:47:53 UTC  

that isn't what activism is

2020-11-27 05:48:04 UTC  

activism is where you put your morals first and interpret second

2020-11-27 05:48:15 UTC  

That's the key issue when it comes to allegations of judicial activism. On what grounds

2020-11-27 05:50:16 UTC  

activism is where the court determines that somewhere in the constitution is buried the idea of a guaranteed right to abortion, which the states cannot override

2020-11-27 05:50:23 UTC  

In Brown v Board of Education, the law as legislated was for segregation. This is cited as an example of Judicial Activism, but if segregation is unconstitutional, why is this activism?

2020-11-27 05:51:01 UTC  

that is a case of more ambiguity I think

2020-11-27 05:51:10 UTC  

it really depends if separate can be equal

2020-11-27 05:51:23 UTC  

and that is up to interpretation

2020-11-27 05:51:41 UTC  

Are you guys familiar with Torres vs Madrid? Uncivil Law and Rekieta covered the oral arguments the other day. They are still deciding what is seizure .. That’s why I’m not sure that originalists/textualist interpretation is fully possible.

2020-11-27 05:51:50 UTC  

I don't mind the judges making such judgement calls (hopefully based on evidence)

2020-11-27 05:52:10 UTC  

nope

2020-11-27 05:52:58 UTC  

where true ambiguity exists, it is the role of the court to come up with something consistent