false equivalency james

As is a disdain for government

Southern values are conservative values. Parties are irrelevant it’s just about liberals and conservatives. Back then republicans were the liberals and the democrats represented southern conservative values. As I said today’s liberal is tomorrow’s conservatives @SPEARS

Is it possible that the level of drone use did not appreciably increase under Obama as those types of decisions regarding tactics and such are not necessarily handled at that level. And, if that is the case, it appears that Obama "went crazy with drones" because he was more transparent about it?

Actually not too long ago most of the South was Democrat

Ah yes, the southern strategy theory.

> As is a disdain for government
@busillis I had to break family tradition in order to develop both.

@busillis when I lived in NC there was a church every block. Imagine one Starbucks surrounded by 10 churches

Pray tell, when was the 'flip'?

That's where the authoritarian piece comes in

@busillis back when democrats marketed to conservatives

Firearms come out

I suggest we are in the middle of a flip right now, actually.

Again party names are useless when talking about the difference between liberals and conservatives

Also Democrat

On ancillary issues but I reckon that's where it starts.

Right the south were democrats and deeply conservative for their time. The democrats marketing to them to get votes. Parties are value systems they market to value systems @busillis

what you just said would be like me saying national socialism is the same as communism

the new conservatives who believe in drug legalization are? What

I’m not talking about socialism at all. I am talking about political parties @SPEARS

i am too james

Heretics to the party

@busillis did you read the part where I said today’s liberals are tomorrow’s conservatives? Do you understand that statement

no, republicans and the conservative movement were hijacked sometime after WW2

@SPEARS that doesn’t intersect with anything I am saying .

Again political parties are intended to discourse

Most people don't want to go to war unless they're maniacs

Most people want to do their own thing unmolested by others

They exist to market to a value system, they swear to do the will of the people that Vote for them. In this case with the civil war the democrats were marketing to the conservative southerners @busillis

Tell that to the people of New York.

Tell that to the victims of Pearl Harbor.

you realize that when we see someone before WW2 being described as "a life long republican" or a "devout republican" that that meant they were for civil rights?

republican party was made under a paltform for civil rights

Marketing for who ? Corporate paymasters.

guess what, everyone got their rights from republicans

I say all this to say the union would be better off without the south

@SPEARS As it was in the 60s as well.

james you are uninformed and have a violent viewpoint of what is best for the country

I've still yet to see that party flip.

Wanting justice and going to war are not the same thing... I may have missed something, so apologies if I'm off point.

@busillis omg , they market to value systems historically. Which is why back in the day they marketed to the conservative south. Do you understand? The south was still conservatives relative to the north as the north were liberals back then (and same as today pretty much)