Again political parties are intended to discourse

Most people don't want to go to war unless they're maniacs

Most people want to do their own thing unmolested by others

They exist to market to a value system, they swear to do the will of the people that Vote for them. In this case with the civil war the democrats were marketing to the conservative southerners @busillis

Tell that to the people of New York.

Tell that to the victims of Pearl Harbor.

you realize that when we see someone before WW2 being described as "a life long republican" or a "devout republican" that that meant they were for civil rights?

republican party was made under a paltform for civil rights

Marketing for who ? Corporate paymasters.

guess what, everyone got their rights from republicans

I say all this to say the union would be better off without the south

@SPEARS As it was in the 60s as well.

james you are uninformed and have a violent viewpoint of what is best for the country

I've still yet to see that party flip.

Wanting justice and going to war are not the same thing... I may have missed something, so apologies if I'm off point.

@busillis omg , they market to value systems historically. Which is why back in the day they marketed to the conservative south. Do you understand? The south was still conservatives relative to the north as the north were liberals back then (and same as today pretty much)

you should worry about your own local politics rather than what people hundreds or thousands of miles away from you are thinking or doing

Well I don’t know about that.... but likewise I don’t know enough of the facts to debate this, I was just pointing out the obvious 🤷🏼‍♀️

How do you get justice when dealing with a corrupt regime?

@SPEARS like I said you people get in our way, I already listed all the reasons

everyone got standardized rights, no one has anymore or less rights than anyone else now. leftists and the media are trying to move the goal posts of what a right is so they can defame people who don't agree with them

So if you left we wouldn’t have to put up with it and you guys can start your own minimalist government @SPEARS

Fair exchange

james please get real

I’m am getting real

move to canada

wat

Big City Cosmopolitan types ... have cornered liberal thought throughout the Millennia

You guys (southern states) just take and take and don’t contribute @SPEARS why not just make moves to secede

Most liberal cities won’t care

They tried that once.

I don't know either... I just am trying to figure things out. Not fully apt, but the "Spanish Flu of 1918" was only called that because Spain was neutral and their press was free to write about it.

@busillis that’s another way of saying where there is activity commerce’s and an exchange of ideas you end up with liberal values yes. Places with low population and stagnated growth of information tend to understand what is going on in liberal cities so they just create all this wacky conspiracies

What do you mean take and take...

@busillis, you just advanced to level 15!

@TaLoN132 they should do it again. Only this time we should kick them out of the union rather than them trying to leave

By the way, I'm pretty sure the south is composed of a lot of the food production that you actually consume.

As it was in the 1860s as well.

They take federal funding without continuing @busillis

The press now is free to write/say what they want to an extent but instead the majority can’t get out of their own way for one second to report anything without being clearly biased

james you dont even know basic geography, i told you i live in the dakotas and have absolutely no loyalty to the south. you are stuck on this and its pathetic. you prove my point that you coastal elites from shithole liberal cities can only focus on what rural americas does and you literally think my existence lowers your quality of living. it doesnt. it never will. i dont have the economic or political power to ever do anything that would negatively effect you. nor would I ever push or support a policy that would. you are completely brainwashed and propagandized by the DNC and their tech/media allies