Message from @robxtom

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2020-11-28 21:30:45 UTC  

Is it possible to have thoughts without language?

2020-11-28 21:30:46 UTC  

True no one knows enough abt it yet to do that w any accuracy. Itโ€™d be observational. Do this see what happens

2020-11-28 21:30:52 UTC  

Yes.

2020-11-28 21:30:56 UTC  

Yeah

2020-11-28 21:31:07 UTC  

I donโ€™t think in language all the time

2020-11-28 21:31:18 UTC  

Most of the time

2020-11-28 21:31:42 UTC  

If a tree falls in the woods and no one's there to hear it does make a sound?@robxtom

2020-11-28 21:31:44 UTC  

Do you need to explain to yourself in a monologue every time your hungry?

2020-11-28 21:32:15 UTC  

Is hunger a Feeling? And I'm hungry I thought?

2020-11-28 21:32:17 UTC  

@Beth let me know if I can explain better.

2020-11-28 21:32:20 UTC  

I would rather unanswered questions than for anyone to be horrible with dogs. I prefer dogs over humans most of the time ๐Ÿ˜Š

2020-11-28 21:32:32 UTC  

@Beth Absolutely.

2020-11-28 21:32:50 UTC  

> Is it possible to have thoughts without language?
@busillis Steven Pinker wrote a great piece about that. If I recall correctly, he contends you have an internal grammar for processing, not necessarily language per se. He would probably shoot me for my facile understanding.

2020-11-28 21:33:09 UTC  

I donโ€™t know what a cerebellum is but other than that I think I understand

2020-11-28 21:33:10 UTC  

@Beth Agreed. The more I learn about people, the more I love dogs.

2020-11-28 21:33:27 UTC  

@Beth small brain, responsible for such things as coordination and balance.

2020-11-28 21:33:53 UTC  

Yes

2020-11-28 21:34:07 UTC  

How can someone not like the most loyal creatures around?

2020-11-28 21:34:20 UTC  

When it's so much harder to trust humans.

2020-11-28 21:34:29 UTC  

Food for thought!

2020-11-28 21:34:32 UTC  

I have two of pinkers books I have to read still

2020-11-28 21:34:34 UTC  

That is where I have difficulties in life.. Iโ€™m one of those people who always gets attached/stuck to a door knob etc

2020-11-28 21:34:44 UTC  

@Beth Kid A has a strong cerebellum, good balance and coordination. Kid B has a weak cerebellum, terrible at balance and coordination. Kid A has a weak frontal lobe (responsible for deductive thinking). Kid B has a strong frontal lobe.
Kid A will be into sports, kid B into reading.

2020-11-28 21:35:02 UTC  

@Beth you and me both. ๐Ÿ˜„ Hahahaha1

2020-11-28 21:35:24 UTC  

> I have two of pinkers books I have to read still
@robxtom lol I still have one. I read it a long long time ago, though.

2020-11-28 21:35:52 UTC  

Enlightenment now and the stuff of thought. Looked really cool

2020-11-28 21:36:01 UTC  

@zulu

2020-11-28 21:36:02 UTC  

Iโ€™m kid B ๐Ÿ™‹๐Ÿผโ€โ™€๏ธ

2020-11-28 21:37:16 UTC  

@robxtom 'The Language Instinct'. I'm looking at it right now. It is more of my post-its than book. Hahaha

2020-11-28 21:37:29 UTC  

Is this internal grammar a manifestation of biochemical reactions?

2020-11-28 21:38:00 UTC  

Facts lol I feel that

2020-11-28 21:38:03 UTC  

That's a doc question.

2020-11-28 21:38:35 UTC  

@Beth I am kid B too, but I wanted to be a soldier, so I trained like hell to acquire the skills of kid A.

2020-11-28 21:38:49 UTC  

He became superhuman.

2020-11-28 21:38:53 UTC  

Man AB.

2020-11-28 21:39:14 UTC  

๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

2020-11-28 21:39:23 UTC  

*bows*

2020-11-28 21:40:19 UTC  

@Zuluzeit thoughts without language? Doesnโ€™t Chomsky cover this in his linguistic theory

2020-11-28 21:40:55 UTC  

Are there thoughts you can't put into words?

2020-11-28 21:41:09 UTC  

I think that's a rather good question toward this idea.

2020-11-28 21:43:07 UTC  

If my understanding is correct, you think far more quickly than you could ever think in language.