essentially within measurement error

that's 40 years

This is a perfect example of Confirmation Bias... If the Reps were not convinced that fraud was being perpetrated, a server that crashed would be a nothing story - other than it might slow the recount down. It would be assumed that procedures would have been followed to ensure data integrity - all votes previously tabulated and stored on that server would be reprocessed or they would wait to see if the server can be fixed. Instead, people assume that something nefarious is going on - even though they announced it and did it in full sight of others.

@nachik systems typically stay stable until they changed massively.

Where could they have gotten such an idea fraud happened

@busillis which hasn't happened since the 1700s, and would probably happen in the other direction next

COOL

Before all the lawsuits they were like guaranteed fraud happened just like Trump said for months did you see the size of Bidens rallies. His supporters didnt even drive around boats with flags.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chris-krebs-presidential-election-security-60-minutes-2020-11-29/

Apparently Biden supporters weren't the only ones not at the Biden rallies.

Some data suggests

btw the UK is rather flat but not THAT flat, the sea can rise metres before we lose much land (btw the previous change was the creation of the channel, before we could walk to France and Denmark, but that's thousands of years ago)

Negligible land gained or lost is a non issue

I wonder if we could have free and fair elections if we made election night a Christian holiday. On that magical election night Steven Miller dressed as Santa flew across the country personally counting all the votes he thought was legal.

it's interesting framing that of CBS

clearly partisan

@nachik I am a non-alarmist

I wonder why there is no MSM that isn't clearly partisan these days, it's like they don't try anymore

well, I suspect why that is, but still they are so brazen

you'd expect a lot of backlash from the public on all sides

Thank you for posting. I hope others will actually listen to him. He is a real expert.

Not just an expert but was in charge of election security during the election in trumps DHS

60 Minutes is highly regarded. It's an institution.

that makes him an important datapoint, but certainly not a disinterested one

you're basically asking the guy in charge if he thinks he's incompetent or wasn't up to the task

He's actually very interested... He is the person that was put in charge of making sure that the election was safe by Trump himself. The guy put his job on the line to make sure that the truth was known.

If he was incompetent and missed fraud all he had to do was say hey look fraud and be hailed as a hero in his party. Instead he debunked rumors knowing he would get fired for competence instead of loyalty

yep

this is like you ask Bolton if he thinks Trump is right when he calls him a total idiot

I won't expect a yes

and yea Trump appointed him

and well, he wasn't great IMO

Bolton wanted to sell books. Nobody puts credence in what he says.

Bolton or Krebs?

Bolton

@TaLoN132 lots of news organizations used to be highly regarded for News like content but after consolidation they are a little more than an advertisement platform for their primary shareholders' interests.

I don't think Krebs' work is as public

most people wouldn't have even heard of him two weeks ago, let alone the details of his work

which is probably mostly behind the scenes

What makes 60 minutes not credible? Trump storming off? 😅

if someone questioned 60 minutes I missed it