Message from @Repeat
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unless you are talking about 1930s italian government its not fascist
stop being so fascist k
words usually mean what people mean them to mean
but we have a word
thats more accurate
authoritarian
so if someone is using the word fascist, they usually mean something specific
authoritarian doesn't mark all the traits of fascism
yes but people just use 'fascism' as any power structure i dont like
'Authoritarian' is a great word to use when talking about authoritarianism.
Who we signalling out now Rudy?
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> yes but people just use 'fascism' as any power structure i dont like
@ImNotGas Well, people use 'communism' in exactly that way, as well.
not really
people just confuse socialism and communism
Oh, they sure as hell do.
I'm happy to not be a Russian Bot lately.
Twitter has been on fire today. Hilarious
And they *also* conflate it with socialism.
Catching up now lol
eh lefty people dont go accusing right wing people of being communists
but righty people do the lame "SEE THEY ARE THE REAL FASCISTS"
fascism includes a certain kind of economic policy (picking favorite/loyal corps, destroying the rest), and a kind of populism (support me and I'll give you what you want! all the other politicians are establishment and only paying lip service! I'll take money from one group and give it to another!), a kind of traditionalism (we will return the glorious past!), a scapegoat (these guys are responsible for our troubles!), making everyone take sides (are you a patriot? or not?), over-glorification of the military into everyday life (large parades, banners; socially punishing anyone who criticizes the military), and loyalty to the leader (socially punishing those who disagree with him) among other characteristics. So when people see some of this stuff, they call it "fascist". I agree that it gets abused a lot, but you are also oversimplifying how language is used.
@ImNotGas
We can do with a dose of Russian. Those Pesky Russians.
right wing boomers fall in this paradigm of Democrats are the real ____
he had a lot of fascist ideals lol
but don't tell him that to his face
@ImNotGas Righty people are the ones who do the blanket communism thing...for anything left. Lefties call anything conservative fascist.
But the interesting thing you mentioned was the bizarre script flipping thing the right does with 'fascist'. They do mean 'authoritarian', I think.
@Zuluzeit i mean left wing people confuse anything authoritarian with fascism as well
Oh yes. But it's ridiculous hyperbole when lefties use it. I am familiar with fascism.
I’m using fascism to describe a very specific and evil form of authoritarianism:
1. The merger of the state and the media. Using the state to censor threatening views.
2. The merger of the state and private business. The destruction of small business in favor of large corporations in which the state owns an ever increasing stake.
3. The merger of state and religion. Critical theory policies and the deconstruction of western culture in favor of the “cult” of science and government.
4. Race-based distribution of wealth and civil rights. Neo segregation and equity policies.
5. Disarming the populace.
6. Strengthening the military presence around the world and playing superpower.
7. Abolition of privacy.
I’d argue this is the modern left’s platform.
They also seem unaware of their own authoritarianism
1.,2,5,7 present in all authoritarian regimes
I would say that project their authoritarianism.
3, present in nazism and stalinism, 4. just hortler 6. actually not the goal of the nazis, though it was the goal of mussolini
Actual Italian fascism was explicitly anti-communist.
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