Message from @JD~Jordan
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Its just ridiculous
No. Consequences to openly calling election fraudulent especially when the US uses democracy and preaches fair elections around the world.
Well people theres going to be backlash from all this. It isn't comfy for us anymore. Thanks to Gina Hispel and other depts who sit in their office and not do their jobs
Dr Linda Tarver in Michigan testimony said it best today at the hearing - no one is working within the election rules anymore - it's like play school or something
Gives political ammunition to foreign adversaries. It’s all like play school.
Agree AdamS
Yeah... how is it gonna look now when we try to convince countries to adopt democracy? They are gonna laugh in our faces
Foreigners are all watching and laughing at this election. It's working in their favor. No respect for the US.
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned in here before, but I was just listening to tonight's podcast and he briefly mentions sharpiegate...There was a segment that OAN did where Ron Watkins explains what the sharpie debacle could have been about, it starts @9m50s if anyone is interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=746HTjhFifA
Would explain the leaked email about requiring sharpies on election day
And look if there was truly something to this stuff then we HAVE to investigate and proseucte. But so far all I have seen are speculations about what "could" happen. "Mickey Mouse could have signed that ballot." I honestly dont give a crap what COULD... did it? Did Mickey sign it? If so we need to figure out why that happen. Because COULD doesn't cut it. A meteor could crash into the polling place
OAN? lolololololol
Yeah and then there's the blatant use of sharpies and masking tape used to seal up in person ballots. Real class act State Senators and district counties.
It’s that the absence of evidence fallacy? @JD~Jordan
Robert talked about that last week I believe.
Most of the witnesses just seem confused as to how basic ballot counting procedure and election machines work I think things will have to change if this is a thing
In debates sure. But when giving EVIDENCE the source matters.
It's not very helpful to just attack the source and ignore the substance of the argument.
Have you ever seen a witness testify in court if they had ten prior theft charges not be questioned about their reliability?
Onion america network isnt really a source though
Its not. They are a joke.
Im not watching 20 mins of OAN opinions. Find me some evidence and I will address it
Sometimes one has to explore the source and make up ones own mind. See past the bias.
There were many experts and professionals who testified about clear irregularities. People who worked many years as poll observers and watchers.
If we are going to treat oan as more than a tabloid I want an audit recount and fraud investigation into their factchecking policies
That is why I included the timestamp to the pertinent parts. The part where Ron Watkins is interviewed is what I'm referring to, its 2-3m long and within that part he addresses the sharpies
I watch over 5 hours of hearings today... about 3 yesterday. I have seen nothing that would amount to "clear irregularities"
@JD~Jordan, you just advanced to level 4!
Well how about we start with CNN on fact checking
I dont watch or post CNN
They are an opinion based network just like FOX and OAN
And MSNBC
You posting OAN is like me posting HuffPost
its a waste of all our times
I use all media, they all have resources...have to use multiple sources. For example as crap as cnn is they broke the pardon story earlier.
the tldr is that the machines put scanned ballots that are deemed erroneous in a folder for a person to "adjudicate". One could make all the ballots "unreadable" by altering the gamma settings of the scanner, the darker sharpie ink would help the person adjudicating the votes quickly identify the in person election day ballots
@JonasRobert, you just advanced to level 1!
JD - it's better to listen to more than 3 hours of the hearings, at least 7 hours as they have very good testimony and it becomes more clear on the ways that the ballot process was handled
I use lots of sources just to see what is going on.... but you cant rely on CNN or FOX or really any 1 source to tell the whole story without slant