It will help with interaction

Send the police force problem will start to shrink itself

@Zuluzeit The drug war has created a problem in which cops have a ton of routes they can abuse to get the result they want.

As the revenue garnered from the War on Drugs will not be available

I want to fix police systematically as well, but the drug war is another elephant of an issue.

Ok put the label If you are uneducated about this product do not use it. Or Warning Avoid Death on everything. EPA and the FDA dropped the ball on GMO's and such 30+ yrs ago and yea they still not got labels on them.

Is a pre pardon like immunity deal they are immune to all crimes up to present time?

Blanket immunity from lawsuits seems to do that @Maw

I'm not saying it's unrelated. I'm saying it's not the only contributor.

@Zuluzeit For sure, agreed.

Look at qualified immunity for one.

Nor even the most important contributor but that is a different argument.

That needs... heavy rework.

Lol ya think?

Based off of drug and drug-related crime incarceration rates it would be intellectually dishonest to state that legalizing drugs would not decrease crime in a dramatic way

Or is it just that pardon powers are so vague nobody knows what they can put in there?

@Zuluzeit Relax yo, I'm on your side.

I know. I'm agreeing. Lol

sarcasm does not seem to type too well

I suggest qualified immunity is a more fundamental problem than the actual drug laws.

Bingo

Ehh, arguable.

It is certainly arguable. My argument is that it is emblematic of the lack of motive to observe the constitution.

It's because cops are basically state tax collectors playing to win the high score in getting as many fines as they can.

It's pretty sad that Oregon has legalized meth & heroine

(And they make... a lot from that)

@Bey Already has been a thing.

It's been like that in practice for a while.

just got back. we now have powe to the heater 😄

https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/our-issues/drug-policy/

Law enforcement was not design to protect people from themselves

Yes, it's a cash cow. And if it can be used as an excuse to create conditions to violate civil rights, dependent on whim, all the worse.

Verses property crimes or crimes against

People

@Zuluzeit Exactly.

It incentivises it.

These are my problems with policing. It's the philosophy which drives it. Drug laws are an ancillary subject to me, not unimportant but more like an amplifier, not cause.

hmmm... maybe Rob should add a category, "general-law" for discussing everything non-specific in the legal realm.

Why should we put people in prison and fine them, take their fundamental rights in our system for being misguided? They're almost never harming other people with their drug issues.

@Bey I've talked to Faith about this.

We'll see how it goes.