Message from @William Dinan

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2020-12-05 16:42:50 UTC  

nono, just saying it.

2020-12-05 16:43:23 UTC  

If your results are more credible with the inclusion of other models/systems is what I'm talking about.

2020-12-05 16:43:32 UTC  

yes!

2020-12-05 16:43:46 UTC  

"It is ancillary to this well-known study"

2020-12-05 16:44:18 UTC  

but then you get the opposite problem

2020-12-05 16:44:26 UTC  

I call it the SS Paradigm

2020-12-05 16:44:43 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771201221145919499/784822577616257024/paradigm.jpg

2020-12-05 16:45:02 UTC  

Report citations?

2020-12-05 16:45:47 UTC  

because it is easier to publish something with the right citations, you get 100 000 articles pointing in one direction, while 1 000 000 equaly good or better article are refused because they cant cite the "established" ones.

2020-12-05 16:46:01 UTC  

Ahhh.

2020-12-05 16:46:21 UTC  

This is how the diagnostics of Bipolar Disorder detrailed. (thus the teaching slide)

2020-12-05 16:46:28 UTC  

I guess it is sort of anti-science in that way.

2020-12-05 16:46:40 UTC  

It's much harder to change the perspective.

2020-12-05 16:46:45 UTC  

yep

2020-12-05 16:46:53 UTC  

Or people become less open to other alternatives.

2020-12-05 16:47:36 UTC  

any article studying bipolar disorder (as that is the active example) not finding a hereditary factor above 0.7 will not be published in the esteemed journals.

2020-12-05 16:48:12 UTC  

It still seems like the use is there, but they should be a little more skeptic.

2020-12-05 16:48:24 UTC  

more evidence exists - probably - pointing to non hereditary factors, but that is squelched by the Journals.

2020-12-05 16:48:39 UTC  

@Maw Its a balance and a golden middle, like anything else.

2020-12-05 16:48:43 UTC  

That, to me, sounds like you report a value for gravity that isn't 9.81, which isn't uncommon, depending on where you are on the Earth.

2020-12-05 16:48:58 UTC  

Sometimes who Publishes Research Findings becomes more important than the Finding themselves.

2020-12-05 16:48:58 UTC  

@William Dinan, you just advanced to level 9!

2020-12-05 16:49:06 UTC  

And people respond with "what's this paganism?!"

2020-12-05 16:49:22 UTC  

@Maw somewhat more complicated. This situation is like if gravity varied with who is doing the measurements.

2020-12-05 16:49:37 UTC  
2020-12-05 16:49:42 UTC  

That is exactly what I'm saying @Doc As it's entirely relative to where you are.

2020-12-05 16:49:53 UTC  

9.81 is the average.

2020-12-05 16:50:10 UTC  

(But not the mean, pretty sure)

2020-12-05 16:50:29 UTC  

and any medical professor have to remove himself from the clinic for 10-20 years just to become one. So the profs will be those least in line with what is happinging on the floor, @William Dinan

2020-12-05 16:50:42 UTC  

@Maw right

2020-12-05 16:50:43 UTC  

Or was it specifically at sea-level? I forgot.

2020-12-05 16:50:49 UTC  

Probably the latter.

2020-12-05 16:51:00 UTC  

Also relative to the location of the moon.

2020-12-05 16:51:09 UTC  

It's complex.

2020-12-05 16:51:24 UTC  

there you go. Polyfactorial, @Maw

2020-12-05 16:51:43 UTC  

And how dense the area around you is.

2020-12-05 16:52:07 UTC  

There are a lot of factors, but many are not huge changes.

2020-12-05 16:52:12 UTC  

It's a massive issue of scale.

2020-12-05 16:52:28 UTC  

Even Temp

2020-12-05 16:52:41 UTC  

temperature