Message from @Phil

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2020-12-11 14:01:00 UTC  

@GlimmerMan they would have to have a runoff no?

2020-12-11 14:01:09 UTC  

Idk would they?

2020-12-11 14:01:10 UTC  

I don't think laches is a convincing argument when PA took 6 years to review an election based change and ruled on its legality. I also don't think special circumstances allow you to do illegal things. If that were the case, you would have seen it quite frequently done without any reference to the law.

2020-12-11 14:01:36 UTC  

@AquaCat me neither, i am trying to play devils advocate

2020-12-11 14:01:57 UTC  

Ah, ok.

2020-12-11 14:02:57 UTC  

That makes more sense. I am waiting for a good argument myself.

Also, as far as the Kamala Harris thing goes, I am pretty sure an election would be held for her seat.

2020-12-11 14:03:42 UTC  

there is a lot of investigation into hunter biden at the moment, if that should incriminate Joe Biden in any way he might just step down or make a deal to retire. even recently he himself said he would make up some illness if he disagreed with obama

2020-12-11 14:04:12 UTC  

but that is just speculation on my part

2020-12-11 14:04:25 UTC  

Yeah, I've been noticing that as well Phil. I wonder how long it will take the FBI to have something.

2020-12-11 14:05:56 UTC  

another argument is how does texas et al. quantify the damage done to them

2020-12-11 14:07:16 UTC  

even if they agree that what they did was illegal, the remedy has to match the damage done

2020-12-11 14:07:47 UTC  

Ideally wouldn't they just want those ballots that would previously not counted, to not be counted?

2020-12-11 14:07:47 UTC  

@GlimmerMan, you just advanced to level 1!

2020-12-11 14:07:54 UTC  

oh thanks bot

2020-12-11 14:08:36 UTC  

@GlimmerMan the problem is that there are quite a lot of them and now that they are separated from the voter's info how do they know which ones to remove?

2020-12-11 14:09:45 UTC  

Not sure, but I'd imagine there's a way. I hope ha. Well either that or they say no votes in the states count. I've heard that was a path as well...

2020-12-11 14:09:52 UTC  

@GlimmerMan from what i understand the investigations have been going on since 2018

2020-12-11 14:10:02 UTC  

then it goes to the legislator i think.

2020-12-11 14:10:41 UTC  

yes that is one possible option

2020-12-11 14:11:27 UTC  

Those little nuggets of truth that come out while he’s on screen with someone else giving him a death stare are something I would truly miss if he’s not elected.

2020-12-11 14:12:14 UTC  

@AdvanceManExtraordinaire yes he is very entertaining. i think history will be much kinder to trump.

2020-12-11 14:16:25 UTC  

Call me what you will I really think the Establishment hates trump because he knows about all their dirty deeds and he wants to expose them one by one. Well which ever the big ones are... and we see how big the Establishment is because 95% of MSM if not more is all on their side...

2020-12-11 14:16:34 UTC  

That’s something I think a lot about. Mainstream media is unfathomably kind to George w Bush despite rightfully castrating him for being a war criminal for 8 years, but then again he’s part of the club whereas trump is an outsider.

2020-12-11 14:17:55 UTC  

just what part of the US Constitution sets standards for mail-in ballots? the rules among the states regarding mail-in ballots vary widely and the Supreme Court hasn't weighed in on the matter before

2020-12-11 14:17:57 UTC  

Maybe one significant part of that is trump initially hiring Michael Flynn to reform the national security state, aka the fourth branch of government.

2020-12-11 14:19:17 UTC  

@GlimmerMan I think its more basic than that. I think they simply dont like him from the beginning because he is not a member of the standard political elite. they liked him fine before he was in political office.

2020-12-11 14:19:37 UTC  

True true Phil.

2020-12-11 14:21:09 UTC  

@meglide the constitution doesn't even state they need to even hold elections, never mind the process for managing mail-in ballots

2020-12-11 14:21:36 UTC  

He was adored. Watching his snl episode and Comedy Central roast is surreal.

2020-12-11 14:21:46 UTC  

correct and thus my question to @Wadejohnson

2020-12-11 14:23:09 UTC  

@AdvanceManExtraordinaire trumps biggest problem is that he doesn't have 30+ years of friends made across government departments. he changed some key positions but not the overall culture of these organisations.

2020-12-11 14:23:11 UTC  

It's left to the states. But there is a set deadline.

2020-12-11 14:24:52 UTC  

The US Constitution state that the State Legislature establishes the process for that State not the State Executive of State Judicial Branch.

2020-12-11 14:25:21 UTC  

*or

2020-12-11 14:26:38 UTC  

Agreed, he had no clue what he was stepping into. I think it became weirdly apparent in that leaked Melania Christmas tape that this is a celebrity family who thought they could just step into the White House and do all the good things people always imagine themselves doing if they became president.

2020-12-11 14:26:52 UTC  

Not realizing there is a shadow government behind the position

2020-12-11 14:27:28 UTC  

They knew there was a shadow government. They just don't know how deep. They still don't.

2020-12-11 14:28:41 UTC  

But when it comes to facts about that, it's hard to prove it when you're not able to access a lot of it. Nixon put a lot of blockage to a lot of the access of organizational government.

2020-12-11 14:28:46 UTC  

I will never understand why trump chose his initial cabinet. I was like great, he filled the swamp back up. And then it ate him.

2020-12-11 14:29:19 UTC  

Well he went with people who were familiar with the jobs.

2020-12-11 14:29:20 UTC  

@William Dinan yes that is true, but they passed law to delegate the responsibility to another party.