At the very least yes

i dont think the case being presented involves the voting machines

All dominion votes dem or rep should be tossed and Biden and trumpet should join the ticket Jan 5

Yeah I remember that from robs video. Seems pretty unfair.

also the states dont have to even hold elections, historically many never did

I think it could be worked into the Texas argument regarding unequal counting of votes.

Nope just that states violated the constitution in relaxing the standards for mail in ballots resulting in wide disenfranchising of the American people

Right, but that would have to be their constitutional process.

@Wadejohnson they could argue that it is because of special circumstances i.e. COVID

Which would set the precedent that “name a special circumstance and you can break your rules”

@AdvanceManExtraordinaire they could argue that the special circumstances were set by the president

Imagine if state republicans in 2004 all of a sudden said only property owners could vote because of special circumstances regarding the threat of terrorism.

the good news is that SCOUS has ordered elections to be thrown out, even for tiny amounts of fraud, but not for presidential elections

imagine

in my own opinion, i think biden will concede before it matters anyway

and Kamala Harris has not given up her senate seat yet either, so maybe she is not so confident either

For me the most important thing is the precedent set for future elections. Adding 3 originalists could be the saving grace of the country lol

I am sure they have contingency plans. That ny times article in the summer wrote about the “war games” they role played to plan for this very moment.

I still don't fully understand the whole Kamala having a senate seat and not leaving thing.... i mean i'm sure she'd leave if they went to the white house, but if she stays how's that possible? who would take her spot if she left? I'm confused. ha

@GlimmerMan they would have to have a runoff no?

Idk would they?

I don't think laches is a convincing argument when PA took 6 years to review an election based change and ruled on its legality. I also don't think special circumstances allow you to do illegal things. If that were the case, you would have seen it quite frequently done without any reference to the law.

@AquaCat me neither, i am trying to play devils advocate

Ah, ok.

That makes more sense. I am waiting for a good argument myself.

Also, as far as the Kamala Harris thing goes, I am pretty sure an election would be held for her seat.

there is a lot of investigation into hunter biden at the moment, if that should incriminate Joe Biden in any way he might just step down or make a deal to retire. even recently he himself said he would make up some illness if he disagreed with obama

but that is just speculation on my part

Yeah, I've been noticing that as well Phil. I wonder how long it will take the FBI to have something.

another argument is how does texas et al. quantify the damage done to them

even if they agree that what they did was illegal, the remedy has to match the damage done

Ideally wouldn't they just want those ballots that would previously not counted, to not be counted?

@GlimmerMan, you just advanced to level 1!

oh thanks bot

@GlimmerMan the problem is that there are quite a lot of them and now that they are separated from the voter's info how do they know which ones to remove?

Not sure, but I'd imagine there's a way. I hope ha. Well either that or they say no votes in the states count. I've heard that was a path as well...

@GlimmerMan from what i understand the investigations have been going on since 2018

then it goes to the legislator i think.

yes that is one possible option

Those little nuggets of truth that come out while he’s on screen with someone else giving him a death stare are something I would truly miss if he’s not elected.

@AdvanceManExtraordinaire yes he is very entertaining. i think history will be much kinder to trump.

Call me what you will I really think the Establishment hates trump because he knows about all their dirty deeds and he wants to expose them one by one. Well which ever the big ones are... and we see how big the Establishment is because 95% of MSM if not more is all on their side...