Message from @AdvanceManExtraordinaire
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By that definition, the DNC is objectively attempting a coup š
States broke their laws to choose which electors to send
another definition "sudden defeat of a government through illegal force by a small group, often a military one" oxford dictionary. this doesnt apply either
@AdvanceManExtraordinaire well that remains to be decided. if they didn't comply with the courts decision then you could say it was illegal, i.e. prohibited by the law
I think whatās not in question is that several state executives changed their election rules against their constitution. Is that not correct?
@AdvanceManExtraordinaire yes that is the accusation. but the courts question is whether that is illegal according to the constitution. at least several states believe that it is.
Iām trying to understand the argument that going against what is stated in the constitution can be constitutional, other than ānot willing to overturn the will of the peopleā.
@AdvanceManExtraordinaire well there are a couple of defences they could use
Iād like to see an understand one
well two similar cases were presented to lower courts, one in GA and one in PA. both were dismissed on the grounds of latches, i.e. waiting too long to complain about the change in the law, and the other one was because they lacked standing to bring the claim
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CIopQ8-nkid/?igshid=b9aikj3nlwqu
If itās proven that vote counters had the ability to add and change votes in dominion machines, should all votes tabulated on dominion machines be tossed?
At the very least yes
i dont think the case being presented involves the voting machines
All dominion votes dem or rep should be tossed and Biden and trumpet should join the ticket Jan 5
Yeah I remember that from robs video. Seems pretty unfair.
also the states dont have to even hold elections, historically many never did
I think it could be worked into the Texas argument regarding unequal counting of votes.
Nope just that states violated the constitution in relaxing the standards for mail in ballots resulting in wide disenfranchising of the American people
Right, but that would have to be their constitutional process.
@Wadejohnson they could argue that it is because of special circumstances i.e. COVID
@AdvanceManExtraordinaire they could argue that the special circumstances were set by the president
Imagine if state republicans in 2004 all of a sudden said only property owners could vote because of special circumstances regarding the threat of terrorism.
the good news is that SCOUS has ordered elections to be thrown out, even for tiny amounts of fraud, but not for presidential elections
imagine
in my own opinion, i think biden will concede before it matters anyway
and Kamala Harris has not given up her senate seat yet either, so maybe she is not so confident either
For me the most important thing is the precedent set for future elections. Adding 3 originalists could be the saving grace of the country lol
I am sure they have contingency plans. That ny times article in the summer wrote about the āwar gamesā they role played to plan for this very moment.
I still don't fully understand the whole Kamala having a senate seat and not leaving thing.... i mean i'm sure she'd leave if they went to the white house, but if she stays how's that possible? who would take her spot if she left? I'm confused. ha
@GlimmerMan they would have to have a runoff no?
Idk would they?
I don't think laches is a convincing argument when PA took 6 years to review an election based change and ruled on its legality. I also don't think special circumstances allow you to do illegal things. If that were the case, you would have seen it quite frequently done without any reference to the law.
Ah, ok.
That makes more sense. I am waiting for a good argument myself.
Also, as far as the Kamala Harris thing goes, I am pretty sure an election would be held for her seat.
there is a lot of investigation into hunter biden at the moment, if that should incriminate Joe Biden in any way he might just step down or make a deal to retire. even recently he himself said he would make up some illness if he disagreed with obama
but that is just speculation on my part
Yeah, I've been noticing that as well Phil. I wonder how long it will take the FBI to have something.
another argument is how does texas et al. quantify the damage done to them
even if they agree that what they did was illegal, the remedy has to match the damage done