Message from @macsen
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And not applying old and outdated things to the existing system.
Actually may be True depending of the Definitions?
It's about upholding the status quo when you feel the risk outweighs the benefit.
The job of the left is to ensure the lowest in society are not forgotten, the job of the centrists/liberals is to push forward with new ideas, the job of the conservatives is to control the speed of change. every person has a tendency to one of these roles by their own personality. You need all types of people to produce a cohesive society.
The status quo is literally the system as it exists today.
resistance to a new paradigm , insisting on older paradigms while not taking in the new environment @Maw
Not as it exists 400 years ago.
The status quo is tied to any particular zeitgeist
Unless your Status Quo is Liberty?
It's not the older paradigm if it's the current paradigm.
I say we have more liberty and freedoms now than 100 years ago @William Dinan
Mostly, yes.
The current paradigm is no particular point it’s always morphing
It's only changing if the system changes.
The society is dynamic and ever changing.
Mainly environment
And that maybe due to Conservatives?
The system is not.
How we have our needs meet changes the paradigm and the system should follow
The point is the interpretation of the constitution changed over time, free speech wasn't as free as it is today before 1919.
yet the average person today had more control over their lives, where they want to go, what they want to do. More avenues for personal growth have been made @macsen
The Marketplace and Innovations are not the same as 100 Years ago also.
Have you actually been alive this year???
He's talking largely about technological progress that enhanced freedom.
Cars, planes, etc.
@Beth you mean the pandemic , yeah once every hundred years we have a global pandemic so what. You are engaging in very short term thinking
Ahh I’m with you now 😌
Yes and Information sharing to say the least in the very near Past.
The idea of the first amendment actually wasn't the way it is today prior to 1919. People were imprisoned for lots of different kinds of speech prior to 1919.
It wasn't until 1919 that you had the greatest ruling in the SCOTUS in US history.
@james j I don't know if that is true or just a perception we have. Some things are easier to do now, others much more restricted.
What you have now is that power is being really heavily focused in a handful people, i am thinking of the owners of Amzon, Netflix, Facebook,Twitter, and the covid situation has only made this shift even faster. If this is not corrected EVERYONE will be subjected to the ideologies (whatever they are) of this very small handful of people and it will be very difficult to reverse.
@macsen your great great great grand parents would marvel at all the stuff you could do in a day that for them would take months
Or years
That's not the government though James.
I’m talking about actual tangible freedoms
Freedoms from the government have degraded over time with the exception of 1919.
The same thing was said after the invention of the Printing Press.