yes if he is removing votes he needs 33,596+

ok so lets assume that it is pretty unlikely for 30k fraud votes lets say

x5 for each of the swing states

thats the understatement of the millenia 😄

how likely is it that biden got more votes than obama and lost seats in the house and no gains in the senate?

https://www.newsweek.com/pro-trump-group-challenge-364k-voter-registrations-georgia-ahead-runoff-election-1556093

how many times has a president gone into office without a senate majority?

Voter fraud deniers everywhere

He'll have one

dems made gains in the senate and are likely about to win 2 more

Gained one already

They probably will win those two. The GOP I predict getting a big middle finger

but if i am to disbelieve that 30k votes x5 , at the same time i have to believe the unlikely event of him winning more than obama and making little or no gains

there were only 1.5 million votes cast in nevada and only so many of them were mailin votes. 17,000 fraud would be unheard of. there is immense checks in place to maintain accurate elections and after election after election intense scrutiny and checks for fraud occur. It just never happens. That 17k votes is beyond widespread voter fraud for sure

at the same time i have to also believe the unlikely event that biden won less counties than ANY other president

"believing things" is different than proving things. Truthiness won't win court cases because its not based in reality.

Between 2000 and 2018 Oregon cast over 100 million mailin ballots. Do you know how many were proven as fraud votes? (its not 17000)

the same people than run the election are those that are elected through the system

or supporters thereof

it is not exactly impartial

its designed exactly to be impartial

im not sure it can be if private money is used to fund drop boxes and other schemes

there were 12 ballots of fraud for 100 million cast ballots. Thats what they mean by mailin ballots are more likely to happen than in person fraud because other fraud happens less often

its more to do with the mechanism of the vote

if i fill out my grandmas vote and submit it by post its fraud, but who would ever know#

it would be harder for me to take her to the machine and push her hand on the button

plus the vote is in a big envelope which has to pass through several mail processing centers

the amount of lost mail is not zero

https://www.fox29.com/news/authorities-pennsylvania-man-tried-to-request-ballot-for-deceased-mother

who would ever know is what everyone says right before they go to prison for several felonies for the prize of a single vote. one vote in an election where we cant even get half the country to legally vote for no penalty

https://youtu.be/e5odSmWzj48

thats why drives to get new voters are extremely common and fraud is extremely rare

theres systems in place to make sure you vote made it through the mail but dropoff boxes are more convenient

except that they are placing them strategically

anyway, expect trump to execute order 66 when everyone is at home during christmas

The notion that fraud is on an unprecedented scale and also untraceable is bananas. When a bunch of folks do a crime some of them get caught. They arent able to pin anything significant down.

its not untraceable, but the methods used to trace it are being blocked or hampered almost uniformly

How are they blocked?

for example today they are going to court to prevent the machines being handed over in AZ

The machines dont prove anything they arent even giving them to real experts just violating the shit out of chain of custody

both sides can have their own experts