Message from @Dedkraken

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2020-12-19 07:21:09 UTC  

it is not exactly impartial

2020-12-19 07:21:24 UTC  

its designed exactly to be impartial

2020-12-19 07:22:08 UTC  

im not sure it can be if private money is used to fund drop boxes and other schemes

2020-12-19 07:22:17 UTC  

there were 12 ballots of fraud for 100 million cast ballots. Thats what they mean by mailin ballots are more likely to happen than in person fraud because other fraud happens less often

2020-12-19 07:23:13 UTC  

its more to do with the mechanism of the vote

2020-12-19 07:23:35 UTC  

if i fill out my grandmas vote and submit it by post its fraud, but who would ever know#

2020-12-19 07:23:58 UTC  

it would be harder for me to take her to the machine and push her hand on the button

2020-12-19 07:24:26 UTC  

plus the vote is in a big envelope which has to pass through several mail processing centers

2020-12-19 07:24:51 UTC  

the amount of lost mail is not zero

2020-12-19 07:26:20 UTC  

who would ever know is what everyone says right before they go to prison for several felonies for the prize of a single vote. one vote in an election where we cant even get half the country to legally vote for no penalty

2020-12-19 07:26:41 UTC  

thats why drives to get new voters are extremely common and fraud is extremely rare

2020-12-19 07:27:18 UTC  

theres systems in place to make sure you vote made it through the mail but dropoff boxes are more convenient

2020-12-19 07:28:16 UTC  

except that they are placing them strategically

2020-12-19 07:29:37 UTC  

anyway, expect trump to execute order 66 when everyone is at home during christmas

2020-12-19 07:33:06 UTC  

The notion that fraud is on an unprecedented scale and also untraceable is bananas. When a bunch of folks do a crime some of them get caught. They arent able to pin anything significant down.

2020-12-19 07:34:20 UTC  

its not untraceable, but the methods used to trace it are being blocked or hampered almost uniformly

2020-12-19 07:34:56 UTC  

How are they blocked?

2020-12-19 07:35:26 UTC  

for example today they are going to court to prevent the machines being handed over in AZ

2020-12-19 07:36:20 UTC  

The machines dont prove anything they arent even giving them to real experts just violating the shit out of chain of custody

2020-12-19 07:36:35 UTC  

both sides can have their own experts

2020-12-19 07:37:10 UTC  

or they can appoint someone both agree to

2020-12-19 07:37:29 UTC  

Base analysis should be done by neutral accredited laboratories setup by the law to professionally test and audit voting machines forensically

2020-12-19 07:37:44 UTC  

When you have DNA evidence it doesnt get tested by both sides

2020-12-19 07:37:53 UTC  

yes they could do that, i would be in favor of that

2020-12-19 07:38:33 UTC  

Those labs exist Powell blocked them going there she wanted her goon to pay through them because she wanted propaganda not something that holds up in court

2020-12-19 07:38:42 UTC  

Other states are sending them to real labs

2020-12-19 07:38:54 UTC  

And or counting the paper ballots

2020-12-19 07:39:15 UTC  

well companies file their taxes based on honesty

2020-12-19 07:39:27 UTC  

but that doesnt not mean that they do not get audited

2020-12-19 07:39:36 UTC  

because you know, people are not always honest

2020-12-19 07:40:38 UTC  

All the real testing trumps legal team doesnt want to do or lies about. They demand hyper partisan junk tests then scream bloody murder when they dont get it.

2020-12-19 07:41:37 UTC  

maybe, but in their defense i would say that IF they feel it really has been corrupted they are probably reluctant to hand it over to other state actors

2020-12-19 07:41:38 UTC  

What real testing would that be?

2020-12-19 07:42:07 UTC  

I mean, the adjudication logs are not there for 2020 but are for past elections. ... Allegedly

2020-12-19 07:42:09 UTC  

ideally you would have an independent lab like you said

2020-12-19 07:42:37 UTC  

but when you have powerful people intent to make everyone move on you start to question things a bit

2020-12-19 07:44:10 UTC  

what kind of aircraft? aircraft change flight directions for all sorts of reasons like wind or storms

2020-12-19 07:44:42 UTC  

Also, if you truly had a secure, secret election... If there was a clever manipulator committing fraud, you would never know.

Thankfully, most criminals are stupid/do not cover their tracks. As such, right now they need to get as much discovery as possible.

Sure, they want to win the election. However. ...If they do not collect the data now, as aggressively as possible, it will be harder to make a difference later after the election is finished.

2020-12-19 07:45:09 UTC  

An actual secure, secret election... It is impossible to discover fraud.