@meglide you can just look at the rise in people getting premature heart disease https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.119.012178

More people getting self induced heart disease lends to rising costs

@james j "The incidence of atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease has declined in the past 2 decades. However, these benefits may not extend to young patients. " That is because the premature cases are due to genetic factors.

unpreventable.

A heart attack in family history (parents, siblings, uncles and aunts) below the age of 60 is regarded genetically relevant for this reason.

#NHS

The previsions for Undocumented Aliens didn't make some Happy either.

@William Dinan, you just advanced to level 25!

We love our NHS...Best Healthcare in the world. & when we don’t want to wait in line we go private. Best of both worlds.

And some people just blame McDonald's....lol

McD kills your liver

before it kills your heart

so those numbers would show up as prevalence of "NASH"

Non-alcoholic steatohepatomegalia

Sounds like a great System if you are Healthy? Kind of like buying Condoms and not Brushing your Teeth? You probably won't get Laid however you are Prepared.

@Doc they excluded people in that study with a history of heart disease

@AdamS. It's a Joke!

@Doc there are tons of preventable kidney and liver diseases Americans suffer from

So question...

Lower Deaths does not equal lower long term costs

lol It works well here, a little overstrained at times. Not sure if it’ll work elsewhere.

Everybody is wrong ...

Chris miller specialty is unconventional warfare (self claimed) what's he talking about here

Auntie @Beth is super duper duper really wrong...

@james j I have no idea how you define preventable. All traffic deaths are preventable, if you not let cars go above 15 km/h

What you on about 🌸

Just picking...

Or just Sit in your Driveway...

@Doc I think he’s referring to keeping people healthy in order to prevent comorbidities later in life.

Probably not best for health. People get fat just sitting

@AdamS So ban TVs and internet?

Jog to and from the Car?

Burpees

obesity , diet, smoking @Doc

@james j and give them all orthorexia?

More like encourage exercise , healthy eating etc

doesnt sound healthy

Look at the top 10 states with heart disease, all the usual suspects costing us money https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/rankings-and-ratings/us-states-ranked-by-heart-disease-related-death-rates.html

I was thinking 0 km/h then I remembered the time I walked around this car that had a trailer hitch with an attached basket protruding from the rear of the car and I tripped over it and nearly broke my neck

i have been in medicine for 20 years, I still have no idea what "good health" means.

@Doc maybe if they are emotionally imbalanced