@Doc they excluded people in that study with a history of heart disease

@AdamS. It's a Joke!

@Doc there are tons of preventable kidney and liver diseases Americans suffer from

So question...

Lower Deaths does not equal lower long term costs

lol It works well here, a little overstrained at times. Not sure if it’ll work elsewhere.

Everybody is wrong ...

Chris miller specialty is unconventional warfare (self claimed) what's he talking about here

Auntie @Beth is super duper duper really wrong...

@james j I have no idea how you define preventable. All traffic deaths are preventable, if you not let cars go above 15 km/h

What you on about 🌸

Just picking...

Or just Sit in your Driveway...

@Doc I think he’s referring to keeping people healthy in order to prevent comorbidities later in life.

Probably not best for health. People get fat just sitting

@AdamS So ban TVs and internet?

Jog to and from the Car?

Burpees

obesity , diet, smoking @Doc

@james j and give them all orthorexia?

More like encourage exercise , healthy eating etc

doesnt sound healthy

Look at the top 10 states with heart disease, all the usual suspects costing us money https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/rankings-and-ratings/us-states-ranked-by-heart-disease-related-death-rates.html

I was thinking 0 km/h then I remembered the time I walked around this car that had a trailer hitch with an attached basket protruding from the rear of the car and I tripped over it and nearly broke my neck

i have been in medicine for 20 years, I still have no idea what "good health" means.

@Doc maybe if they are emotionally imbalanced

you must also be aware that the healthier people are, the more they cost.

smoking actually saves society money

not smoking is a very egoistical habit.

You mean people that are sick draining the health system

You don't need a Wheelbarrow to carry your Medications in?

Cancer is cheap?

Healthy people can contribute and not be a burden on the system

@james j @SoonMrWick yes, lung cancer is cheap and happens right after retirement. Age is expensive.

dead people are free

Bring back gladiators

Can we get rid of Idiots and Lazy People next?

Dead people cost money even after they are dead and contribute nothing

@William Dinan https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/rankings-and-ratings/us-states-ranked-by-heart-disease-related-death-rates.html get rid of these people . Top ten states

yes, I am tired of constantly being billed by Richard III

as does drive by shootings under @james j logic ... what he doesn't get is that folks that would have otherwise died in the past lead productive lives and therefore make us money so it's what is the cost benefit analysis and we've always gone for the better to keep them alive