Message from @duckherder

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2020-12-30 22:39:51 UTC  

'Expert testimony'

2020-12-30 22:40:07 UTC  

You can always pay people to say whatever you want.

2020-12-30 22:40:15 UTC  

That's another damn fact.

2020-12-30 22:40:21 UTC  

Well I'm not talking data. The Pennsylvania supreme Court literally changed the deadline for mail and ballots, and they also prohibited spoilage from signatur e mismatch

2020-12-30 22:40:40 UTC  

If that's not garbage I don't know what is

2020-12-30 22:41:18 UTC  

The legal aspect of this is where there's issues. But one would have to win court cases.

2020-12-30 22:41:30 UTC  

Then it will be litigated! As it should be. Don't know how this makes the whole system not work, or that we need to overturn the results.

2020-12-30 22:41:33 UTC  

Undoubtedly. Still garbage

2020-12-30 22:41:33 UTC  

ain't been too much winning

2020-12-30 22:41:53 UTC  

I mean, I agree, the separation of powers is of tantamount importance.

2020-12-30 22:41:59 UTC  

Then there's one state doesn't get Trump the presidency.

2020-12-30 22:42:08 UTC  

He would need three Pennsylvania Georgia and Nevada

2020-12-30 22:42:18 UTC  

Or Pennsylvania Georgia and some other state.

2020-12-30 22:42:20 UTC  

Sure. That's why a state supreme court should not be more powerful than a state's legislature

2020-12-30 22:42:32 UTC  

Separate but equal

2020-12-30 22:42:35 UTC  

Equal, last I recall.

2020-12-30 22:42:54 UTC  

Then how come it was able to rewrite legislation

2020-12-30 22:43:10 UTC  

In Pennsylvania at least

2020-12-30 22:43:36 UTC  

Because of prior existing legislation that contradicted it.

2020-12-30 22:43:45 UTC  

Legal decisions aren't legislation.

2020-12-30 22:44:09 UTC  

You're telling me that the court can literally change a date that the legislature set and that's proper

2020-12-30 22:44:10 UTC  

And that prior existing legislation had superiority.

2020-12-30 22:44:18 UTC  

That's not what happened... Secretary of the Commonwealth Boockvar was granted oversight of the election by the legislature. Part of that mandate is to ensure safe and fair elections. The GOP legislature didn't like the temporary changes that she made in order to address concerns about the pandemic and sued her. So, there were 2 competing directives that was part of the PA voting laws as prescribed by the PA legislature. The PA GOP decided to pursue a legal case instead of amending to PA laws. The PA SC sided with the SotC in allowing her to make the temporary changes. The PA GOP again decided to pursue the legal case instead of passing a law to block her and appealed to the US SC, who decided to let the PA SC decision stand in a 4-4 decision BEFORE the election. This was all legal.

2020-12-30 22:44:22 UTC  

Now do I agree with the court doing that? No, not really.

2020-12-30 22:44:36 UTC  

That's what courts do.

2020-12-30 22:44:49 UTC  

They've been doing this why get upset about it now?

2020-12-30 22:44:51 UTC  

In third world countries

2020-12-30 22:44:57 UTC  

No, that's actually not what they're supposed to do.

2020-12-30 22:45:08 UTC  

Not in America.

2020-12-30 22:45:41 UTC  

Still can't throw away millions of good faith American votes. It's not about what Trump deserves.

2020-12-30 22:45:48 UTC  

So the courts are rewriting legislation from the bench?

2020-12-30 22:45:49 UTC  

True.

2020-12-30 22:45:57 UTC  

If you're straight up changing dates set by the legislature, then that's a clear violation of the electors clause

2020-12-30 22:46:05 UTC  

In this case it appears so in one case at least.

2020-12-30 22:46:33 UTC  

Okay well it's no better when they do it

2020-12-30 22:46:35 UTC  

Well that's not right...

2020-12-30 22:46:50 UTC  

@Zuluzeit Some. If it’s not too much trouble, would you please direct my attention to a good explanation from a reliable source?

2020-12-30 22:46:58 UTC  

I thought you were talking about rulings on legislation that set precedent @Maw .

2020-12-30 22:48:28 UTC  

E.g: The legislation said no more ballots after arriving after Nov. 4th, despite having postmarks before nov 4th, the SC extended the deadline 1 week to accept pre-4th postmarked ballots.

2020-12-30 22:48:38 UTC  

I think Pennsylvania knows that. If you look at the election results and their website it says it does not include balance cast after 8:00 p.m. on election day. So even if a court were to throw out those extra ballots that came in after election day it wouldn't change the end result.