it's terrible

I agree, ignorance has a more negative connotation, but it's true.

Ignorance just means things that you don't know or understand.

Or that was my intended definition

Not all ignorance/bias is bad, but it often leads to bad outcomes if left unchecked.

Yeah I agree it sounds bad

I see that argument, but if its truly ignorance its the willful type

But that's what's happening...

He still thinks Trump is going to pay him $20k a day... The Trump campaign still hasn't paid for rallies held in 2016.

lol

I don't know I think that if you have someone who's an attorney or a so-called expert that's telling you something that people are conditioned to believe them.

You don't go to your physician and my second guess a diagnosis or an attorney in second guess their strategy.

But that's what they're doing they're putting these people out here is so-called experts and they're just totally misrepresenting and lying.

Maybe there is a component of willfulness.

This is why doctors and lawyers have ethics rules.

@JD~Jordan And Trump doesn't have to worry about Rudy suing him for the money... He's seen his recent court performances.

Idk... Still it doesn't make the perpetrators any less culpable.

Very strict ones usually.

Yeah... but a particular set of letters behind your name does not mean you are incapable of missing your own set of biases

For lawyers it's the BAR.

What happened to that...

Last I checked Rudy's still up attorney.

The BAR? Oh, it's still very relevant.

And so are those other attorneys...

They're not supposed to be lying to people. And you can't convince me that they believe this b*******.

There is no way.

Each state has a Board of Professional Responsibility.... they typically are the association that issues law licenses and can censor, suspend or even disbar an attorney

But what about the morality of just trying to do the right thing... This isn't a minor mix up.

There is a Federal Bar... but I honestly dont know much about it. Generally speaking if you are licensed to practice in a state you can practice in a federal court as well

Or a case of something being misspoken.

You're usually allowed in most cases, rather.

But you do have to ask for permission via motion IIRC.

Or are we talking about drinks?

I think you can get permission from federal courts to practice law in the court.

Only for specific cases.

Even if you pass the bar in a state you still have to be approved by the federal court to appear.

I think

I guess what I am saying or asking is that I dont believe there is a special law licenses for the federal system. You have to be licensed in a state and then file a request with the federal court in which you wish to bring a case

or appear

Exactly no different license required.

I prefer my bars to be smooth, so I can slide drinks to the end without spilling...