Honestly not much.

A discussion on what language not to use for the holy grailesse.

What was the abbreviation you use that was horrifying?

@Philip R Don't worry, no one blames their actions on being Australian.

I sometimes do. When caught drunk in Turkey and they ask where I am from. I name the country furthest away from me.

Changing the subject to what this topic is supposed to be about, the American election has made me (and not just me) appreciate the Australian electoral system so much more. I think I can say that nobody has any real concerns about the integrity of the voting system here.

C u next Tuesday?

@busillis Not helping, dude!!!

What's our objective? @Doc

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Maybe. That sudden panic, tucking head between knees, and screaming when an Aussie wakes up on the passenger side of an American vehicle on an American road seems to be blamable on being Australian.

The election ? Wasn't that over more than a month ago?

"these [procreational fold]s put the wheel on the wrong side of the car!]

Oddly, the problems with this election are because we adapted the Australian ballot system about 125 years ago.

@Whithers only prisoners vote?

Americans innately grow up to distrust the government (but not certain parts of it strangely) from early childhood.

I do! But it’s the last day of a shit year. Chill out mate.

Given that Australia as a country is not that old, you'll need to explain that more.

@Philip R, you just advanced to level 3!

@Philip R I whispered Beth gently in the ear yesterday; "eleeeection", and she had an anaphylactic reaction. She is still on epi-drip.

Lmao @Doc 😂🖕🏼

Dyselectricians arent always electricians.

"Here" was a reference to Australia. And *here* it's the first day of 2021. So I assume you are not saying that you have concerns about the Australian system.

of course!

you have the wrong year, mate!

Again, it's sort of a cultural thing that Americans are more predisposed to distrust the government and its systems. Remember the country is founded on revolution and distrust.

Until we adopted the Australian ballot, all voting took place at tables where everyone could see and hear how you voted to the election clerk. The Dem Party organized city bosses to run thugs in precincts that would beat men into hospital for failing to vote as instructed. When we adopted the Australian or Secret Ballot people could lie about how they voted.

No. It's just that us Aussies are ahead of you Americans. (By about 20 hours.)

so....your population is generally older than the americans...

Somehow, we've been able to conduct elections for 240 years without a constitutional crisis with a lot less technology, no need for an independent audit, and almost no checks and balances. For the first time in history, we have the ability to have scanned tabulated votes and paper backups that can be used to audit the results with nearly perfect precision. In 2004, 2008, 2012, and 2016 there were voting machines that had no paper backup - meaning that there was no way of verifying that the tabulated totals were accurate... and, yet, we were able to accept consensus results in each of those elections. How is it that one man's paranoid assertions can sow universal doubt in the system for all of his supporters. It doesn't make sense.

I think that technology has allowed us to incrementally make each election more secure - not the opposite. I also think that it is possible that the effort to sow doubt in the outcome of this election has a greater purpose than questioning the validity of Biden's win. It could be that the idea that fair elections scares the hell out of the corporatists that are so heavily invested in maintaining the status quo. Imagine what it means for us to have an absolutely secure election system for the first time. Also look at the effort to repeal s230... The impact of social media coupled with a truly fair election could result in a real threat to the power structure in the US. For the first time ever, it may be possible to run a grass roots campaign with the right candidate that is truly not beholden to corporate interests. I really think it is a real possibility.

Whereas the founders of this country had great convictions. For petty theft, etc.! (It started as a penal colony.)

And wiser!

Yeah, aware of that, but it never really left the commonwealth.

@Philip R Not sure. You placed your country awfully close to china.

hide the dingos!

So also did the State of Georgia; they also were established as a penal colony.

for perps named George.

I was going to...well...never mind.