Message from @Philip R
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Trump has never been open to opposing views ... it's always been his way or the highway
Trump never doubles down.
I've heard it all now.
not when he can triple and quadruple and maybe even bigly down
And yet in your previous reply you made a distinction between then and now, in order to dismiiss my evidence that he IS open to opposing views.
> Trump has never been open to opposing views ... it's always been his way or the highway
@meglide To be fair, he has never had a reason to be otherwise.
Government may not establish nor be a religion. Marriage licenses are a holdover from the Queen of England being the head of both church and state. They are not legitimate under the Constitution.
A two party system from which one must choose
Soon to be a one-party system if this keeps up.
no just because he wasn't as quick to fire folks in the past does not mean he ever really listened to an opposing view
Are you making a distinction between marriage and marriage licences? My point is that it is legitimate to regulate marriage (whether that involves a licence or not), because marriage is a fundamental part of being, just as it's legitimate to regulate other matters, such as business, social interaction (e.g. not allowing theft, murder, etc.).
There are many positions within a Venn diagram.
The Collaboratist Party of China.
But I didn't just claim that he didn't fire Fauci. I pointed out that he listened and acted.
Yay!
Guess that means the left wins, and this was your goal?
he didn't listen when it wasn't what he wanted to hear
Everything the state does is enforced at the point of a gun via police, fbi etc so everything it does should be determined as legitimate in the context of the legitimacy of making people obey you by threatening to harm them
There is no legitimate purpose for the state to regulate interpersonal relationship choices.
Obey
So the state should not ban rape?
Though allows for religion and freedom to worship and choose faith in accord to ones belief system. Marriage can be a sacrament under god of choice but also is a binding commitment regardless of religion.
don't know ... so let's stick with what we do know, we do know that he does not want to hear that he lost and we know that his actions regarding not listening to anyone that tells him that he lost are as I described
They get alienated and called a RINO.
Chastised and cast aside.
Inconvenient. Therefore not evidence.
Business is a market transaction which means it effects the economy which means it determines the capacity of national security as a social function. Marriage is and is always an interpersonal, not governmental affair which recreates the Creati Mundi in the relation of the sacred and the human. Financial dependency and all political actions which the state effects using the marriage license can be done through other government records, such as the declaration of dependents on an income tax form.
Part of what we know is that he has listed to things he didn't want to hear. And we also know that there is good reason to think that he was cheated out of the election, so it is not in evidence that he simply doesn't want to hear that.
Secretly Trump was a communist the whole time, fracturing the GOP to leave the democrats the single-party ruler of the US.
_clap._
I rest my case.
Imagine thinking most of the GOP isn't the same party
Rape is assault. Not relevant to marriage.
> Imagine thinking most of the GOP isn't the same party
@The Mongler Done. That was easy.
Marriage is a fundamental part of society, which would break down without it. You're treating it as an optional extra.
Republicans aren't having hard times in elections, no siree.
Come on Georgia. Do the right thing.
Rape is an interpersonal relationship, which you said should not be regulated.
not in evidence because you don't want it to be in evidence ... examples are almost too numerous to list ... but Trump is not taking Geraldo Rivera's calls after Geraldo acknowledged that Biden won ... Trump is calling for the governor of GA to resign, etc., etc.
There is no secular purpose to a marriage license that is not effected by other records. Marriage licenses are a tax on one's sexual relationships. A contract is a binding commitment, and can be executed at a legal office if one chooses to incorporate ones relationship(s).