Message from @Philip R
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Irrelevant to what I stated.
Is there a term for next level gaslight? I submit 'gasnova' for consideration.
You suggesting this says Fox news is center right is the equivalent (distance from median viewer) that huffpo would be 'center left' by your own definition.
I stated Trump was supporting LGBT marriage licenses before either party. And that government marriage licenses, regardless of for whom they are targeted, are not a genuine conservative position.
Sounds like you're the RINO in this case, because I'm pretty sure most conservatives support that.
No, I was simply pointing out that your supportive evidence said something a bit different to what you claimed.
@Philip R, you just advanced to level 6!
RINO, or CINO?
yep, that's pretty much what he is doing ... you tell him what he wants to hear and he listens, you tell something he doesn't want to hear and he doesn't ... irrelevant to him whether content is true or false, what he wants to believe is true, what he doesn't is false as per his definition
Moderates are currently out of the fog
The problem is that I gave an example disagreeing with that claim.
Most corporatists, but not most conservatives. Most conservatives support that the 1st Amendment requires government neither practice religion nor suppress it.
Not at all? Unless you're suggesting Huffpo is center-left of course.
Believe me, you wouldn't want to make that mistake.
I said "a bit different", not "completely different". And I've already addressed the HuffPost claim.
But is marriage purely a "religious" matter?
well actually your example is weak and we're talking election now ... Trump did stop listening to Fauci months ago and even hired someone who held views that Trump wanted to represent the White House view ...
Yes, but the argument is categorizing and black box labeling when the vast population is especially diverse only narrowed and funneled into dichotomies
> I didn't propose a test.
@Philip R Of course you wouldn't. You get to continue selecting what is evidence based in whether something is convenient to your position. Twice that I've noticed, although I haven't been paying strict attention.
Yes, marriage is a sacrament of faith. Sex is a biochemical social activity. The latter does not require the former.
Government may not enforce religion...big difference
All words are categorizing. Without categorizing there are no words.
Marriage is a way that we were designed to operate. Just like sex.
Trump clips naysayers as a matter of routine. This is not news.
@Zuluzeit, you just advanced to level 38!
Trump has never been open to opposing views ... it's always been his way or the highway
Trump never doubles down.
I've heard it all now.
not when he can triple and quadruple and maybe even bigly down
And yet in your previous reply you made a distinction between then and now, in order to dismiiss my evidence that he IS open to opposing views.
> Trump has never been open to opposing views ... it's always been his way or the highway
@meglide To be fair, he has never had a reason to be otherwise.
Government may not establish nor be a religion. Marriage licenses are a holdover from the Queen of England being the head of both church and state. They are not legitimate under the Constitution.
A two party system from which one must choose
Soon to be a one-party system if this keeps up.
no just because he wasn't as quick to fire folks in the past does not mean he ever really listened to an opposing view
Are you making a distinction between marriage and marriage licences? My point is that it is legitimate to regulate marriage (whether that involves a licence or not), because marriage is a fundamental part of being, just as it's legitimate to regulate other matters, such as business, social interaction (e.g. not allowing theft, murder, etc.).
There are many positions within a Venn diagram.
The Collaboratist Party of China.
But I didn't just claim that he didn't fire Fauci. I pointed out that he listened and acted.
Yay!