Message from @Zuluzeit

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2020-11-07 20:25:19 UTC  

Not saying he wasn't a sexual scumbag but you have to bring actual evidence, not just a heap accusations.

2020-11-07 20:25:20 UTC  

honestly it feels like they telegraphed their intentions early on

2020-11-07 20:25:32 UTC  

but i know how that sounds so i'll just shut up lol

2020-11-07 20:25:54 UTC  

we'll see

2020-11-07 20:26:47 UTC  

proving it will be next to impossibile

2020-11-07 20:26:52 UTC  

impossible*

2020-11-07 20:26:55 UTC  

It's fine, no one is judging you of course. Not I anyway.

2020-11-07 20:28:19 UTC  

Yeah "feels" is a sticky wicket. We all have it and it's not all the same. Everyone should be able to identify with that.

2020-11-07 20:28:50 UTC  

"Feels" in this current political climate is something that you want to double and triple check.

2020-11-07 20:29:00 UTC  

Lol yes

2020-11-07 20:29:24 UTC  

Well we could point to their actions and their words which inform my "feels" lol

2020-11-07 20:29:41 UTC  

but this is general chat so, let's not bother

2020-11-07 20:29:49 UTC  

honestly i am a little tired of it too

2020-11-07 20:29:51 UTC  

haha

2020-11-07 20:30:00 UTC  

Hey, it's all good my dude.

2020-11-07 20:30:09 UTC  

but i think it's important enough not to let it slide

2020-11-07 20:30:12 UTC  

We didn't mean 'feels' in the noun sense.

2020-11-07 20:30:36 UTC  

until Biden becomes president then there's no way to go but forward

2020-11-07 20:30:40 UTC  

Or net-slang sense.

2020-11-07 20:30:52 UTC  

it's cool i understand

2020-11-07 20:31:09 UTC  

net-slang. I like that term.

2020-11-07 20:39:20 UTC  

Like, I have conservative opinions on certain things, but left-wing opinions on other things. I'm libertarian much like Robert is. Heck, I believe you can use lethal force to protect your property in a lot of cases because it's a societal contract, and insurance never really covers everything, with exceptions of course. You shouldn't be shooting people if your house is already on fire or whatnot, it would be used to prevent massive property damage, and not as a tool for revenge. Caveats and whatnot. I also think you should be required to warn people in most cases. Of course I get called a crazy right-winger for having such opinions around the internet, but I think that's only because it's the internet.

2020-11-07 20:40:24 UTC  

I also understand insurance isn't something that is adequate compensation for loss.

2020-11-07 20:41:01 UTC  

Which is why I have that sort of opinion. If you just got the same monetary value back whenever you were wronged, I'd probably change my mind, but that's not how insurance companies work.

2020-11-07 20:41:15 UTC  

You still take massive losses most of the time.

2020-11-07 20:43:23 UTC  

I'm actually a centrist with a fairly hard libertarian lean.

2020-11-07 23:17:24 UTC  

Merely being compensated isn't good enough. Something has to address that you were lawfully minding your own business and someone took it upon themself to disrupt it. There is an element of initiative that needs to be accommodated and I'm not sure it's even possible to do that. It can't be nothing. The ability to legally prevent such things is somewhat of a counterbalance to the inability to fully reconcile unsolicited victimhood after the fact.

2020-11-07 23:19:01 UTC  

Which is why I believe you should be allowed to protect life and property (of a reasonable nature of course, not shooting someone for stealing your TV and the likes.)

2020-11-07 23:19:20 UTC  

But when it's a substantial portion of your livelihood.

2020-11-07 23:19:26 UTC  

AKA your business, or your home.

2020-11-07 23:19:52 UTC  

Again, only in efforts to protect it, and not revenge after the fact.

2020-11-07 23:20:11 UTC  

That's common sense, not right wing.

2020-11-07 23:21:17 UTC  

The problem is that people evaluate individual issues as part of an ideological package

2020-11-07 23:23:28 UTC  

It's the unfortunate circumstances Kyle Rittenhouse now faces.

2020-11-07 23:24:20 UTC  

He did something I'd consider very dumb, but I don't think it's his fault for how it ended up, and I don't think he's a murderer.

2020-11-07 23:27:21 UTC  

Yes, he certainly didn't *not* have a hand in constructing the scenario in question. I think that superficially muddies the water for many folks.

2020-11-07 23:27:43 UTC  

I agree. He was silly enough to try to play the roles of guard and EMT at the same time with no proper training in either.

2020-11-07 23:28:03 UTC  

He certainly was provocative with his presence while armed, but it doesn't give justification to mob him, or assault him, or force him to forfeit his right to life.

2020-11-07 23:28:55 UTC  

But then again...he was 17.

2020-11-07 23:29:04 UTC  

Just being there at his age was idiotic. Legality is a separate issue.

2020-11-07 23:29:11 UTC  

The patrol leaves as boys and returns as men....