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And probably lead to a swath of other issues.
Insightful, to say the least.
Definitely something to mull about.
well, this is why some studies show masks are increasing the problem.
you go to a public restroom, take off your mask (contaminating it), touching surfaces, and then putting your mask on.
remember this too, in medicine the transmission ladder looks like this: "Blood-contact-aerosol-airborne"
what is aerosoled is also contact.
Yeah, more contact with the face/eyes. I've heard eye contact is less of an issue because of the disease type, but for sure touching your mask all the time isn't good.
which makes mask with no gloves pointless.
Also eating with gloves, and not swapping gloves kinda pointless as well.
exactly. When stitching up a hep-pt you burn through 5 sets of gloves in 10 minutes.
I don't doubt it.
so...yah....wear a mask, but dont touch it, and pointless if you go to public restrooms.
and depending on how you design your study then, you will get "equivocallity" when studying the effects of the mask.
If you can smell it while wearing a mask, it's not helping you in any meaningful way.
(That's also how you test mask fits, folks, by smell!)
Exclusive to n95s though.
And even then, you then need to know how to fully get rid of PPE that's contaminated in a way that you don't accidentally infect yourself. Which usually involves other people helping you.
"offices, schools and events"
I'd be interested in where this data was sourced, as lots of public transportation methods were shut down.
And still are in some places.
source is included
Is this relative to cases per collective, or is this the per capita rate?
2830 cases traced back to their most likely transmission.
You will find the same pattern in most such studies.
You will also find that short flight post very little risk, but that it jumps up to significant as the flight is transcontinental.
same with train-travel.
That's consistent with public toilet use.
indeed it is.
and swab tests from infected cruice ships find the highest probability of an RNA-sample to be positive, when taken from a bathroom floor.
This is the origin of the confusion.
sure, the mask will protect you to some extent from those aerosols, but there is a much more probable pathway.
Touching your face or your food.
after a restroom visit.
I'm surprised to say the least that it was contaminated surfaces that were the primary cause.
But I mean, it makes sense.
We've known it's transmissible via fecal matter for a long time too.
The excretion of virus particles in faces is massive.
ah, yes.