Message from @Doc

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2020-11-09 20:21:39 UTC  

I'm surprised to say the least that it was contaminated surfaces that were the primary cause.

2020-11-09 20:21:47 UTC  

But I mean, it makes sense.

2020-11-09 20:22:30 UTC  

We've known it's transmissible via fecal matter for a long time too.

2020-11-09 20:22:39 UTC  

The excretion of virus particles in faces is massive.

2020-11-09 20:22:42 UTC  

ah, yes.

2020-11-09 20:23:16 UTC  

A study from singapore showing a concentration of virus in brown water 200 times higher than was expected based on infection-rate.

2020-11-09 20:23:54 UTC  

that could be silent cases, but still a significant finding.

2020-11-09 20:24:12 UTC  

I'd be surprised if anyone that worked a water treatment plant wasn't infected at some point.

2020-11-09 20:24:17 UTC  

I/C is high for covid 19

2020-11-09 20:24:35 UTC  

interesting point! Ill check for that when I have time.

2020-11-09 20:24:54 UTC  

good thinking. Clever dude/maam.

2020-11-09 20:25:02 UTC  

Cheers!

2020-11-09 20:25:50 UTC  

Includes people that have to work with septic tanks, and utility workers that have to go into into any sewage environment.

2020-11-09 20:26:29 UTC  

well, you dont know its denaturation time exactly, so I would want to check and see if toilet cleaners have a Relative Risk that is significant.

2020-11-09 20:26:45 UTC  

That too.

2020-11-09 20:27:03 UTC  

the singapore study didnt look for operational virii, but RNA fragments.

2020-11-09 20:28:11 UTC  

Water also furthers the expected lifespan of the virus itself.

2020-11-09 20:28:18 UTC  

To potentially weeks.

2020-11-09 20:28:29 UTC  

Its worth reading the cruice ship swab studies too. They found the highest probability on bathroom floors, and the second on pillows.

2020-11-09 20:28:47 UTC  

40 something and 30 something.

2020-11-09 20:29:52 UTC  

I saw one interesting case here, where an entire nursing home got infected, yet the staff had observed all rules and regulations.

2020-11-09 20:29:54 UTC  

why would you put your mask back on before washing your hands

2020-11-09 20:30:02 UTC  

They had been sharing bathrooms, however.

2020-11-09 20:30:11 UTC  

Because your mask is contaminated.

2020-11-09 20:30:37 UTC  

Ideally you wouldn't take it off, ever.

2020-11-09 20:30:39 UTC  

@realz the mask you wear into a public restroom is now full of aerosols with virii, if the person before you is sick.

2020-11-09 20:30:54 UTC  

next to your eyes, mouth and nose.

2020-11-09 20:31:06 UTC  

got it

2020-11-09 20:31:13 UTC  

but how is that worse than no mask

2020-11-09 20:31:18 UTC  

it isnt.

2020-11-09 20:31:24 UTC  

OK

2020-11-09 20:31:44 UTC  

its just hanging around in the air in the public rest rooms then

2020-11-09 20:31:46 UTC  

its just that a mask does not protect

2020-11-09 20:31:59 UTC  

yes, once you flush, it gets airborne.

2020-11-09 20:32:06 UTC  

like enterovirii

2020-11-09 20:32:09 UTC  

mmk

2020-11-09 20:32:17 UTC  

It hangs in the air. Anything you smell can be a particle that contains a viral load.

2020-11-09 20:32:24 UTC  

It eventually settles on surfaces.

2020-11-09 20:32:27 UTC  

mhm

2020-11-09 20:33:10 UTC  

so pubs, clubs, hotels and cruice ships become superspreaders.

2020-11-09 20:33:17 UTC  

not subways.