Message from @SPEARS

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2020-11-16 20:48:30 UTC  

@SPEARS if you are so sure then there is plenty of options to put your money where your mouth is

2020-11-16 20:48:48 UTC  

I make no claims on gambling

2020-11-16 20:56:15 UTC  

i'm just saying, the last thing you will be worried about is how much you have in BTC if the dollar becomes monopoly money

2020-11-16 20:56:49 UTC  

that's one thing you said

2020-11-16 20:56:55 UTC  

but you are just a guy on the internet

2020-11-16 20:57:12 UTC  

r/bitcoin has a thousand like you, a million even

2020-11-16 20:57:43 UTC  

just saying it without any apparent reasoning isn't going to impress me

2020-11-16 20:58:13 UTC  

(and you said more than that too, `BTC is a meme` is not `i'm just saying,...`)

2020-11-16 20:58:37 UTC  

like I said, I make _no_ claims about BTC going up or down

2020-11-16 20:58:45 UTC  

to me it is gambling

2020-11-16 20:59:16 UTC  

but you made a claim, you can make money off that claim, and you gave no reason other than you saying it

2020-11-16 20:59:29 UTC  

if you want to make money off this conviction, you can

2020-11-16 20:59:40 UTC  

other than that, what I am supposed to say?

2020-11-16 21:07:41 UTC  

"Bitcoin is often perceived as an anonymous payment network. But in reality, Bitcoin is probably the most transparent payment network in the world. "
https://bitcoin.org/en/protect-your-privacy

2020-11-16 21:10:15 UTC  

there's your rebuttal. the us government has and will seize alternate wealth storages, in times of economic depression. feel free to lecture me more about how I have uneducated/baseless claim thinking that the most public transaction system ever created, will be fucked with by the government

2020-11-16 21:11:39 UTC  

that is a petty rebuttal

2020-11-16 21:11:48 UTC  

gold was not worthless after that

2020-11-16 21:12:03 UTC  

and it would be pointless to seize if the act of seizure made it worthless

2020-11-16 21:12:12 UTC  

also, it isn't easy to seize even if you know who has or had it

2020-11-16 21:12:39 UTC  

yes, either way you lose. its either worthless and you can do nothing with it. or its worth something and the government takes it

2020-11-16 21:12:51 UTC  

the government didn't just take the gold

2020-11-16 21:12:53 UTC  

they paid for it

2020-11-16 21:13:44 UTC  

and as I explained, it isn't easy to actually seize either

2020-11-16 21:14:41 UTC  

you can make similar hand wavey arguments about any assets

2020-11-16 21:14:49 UTC  

stocks or real estate

2020-11-16 21:14:52 UTC  

anything

2020-11-16 21:15:11 UTC  

(with the difference being that they can actually seize it with or without your "assistance")

2020-11-16 21:16:04 UTC  

not to mention that in such a scenario it would be worth a lot to people out of the country

2020-11-16 21:17:05 UTC  

I actually did a bunch of research on tracking things like btc

2020-11-16 21:17:15 UTC  

i.e I almost wrote a paper on it

2020-11-16 21:17:36 UTC  

and it is quite easy to have a single plausibly deniable transaction to yourself

2020-11-16 21:17:44 UTC  

i.e to claim you sent it to your cousin outside the US

2020-11-16 21:17:53 UTC  

and they can't prove otherwise or do anything about it

2020-11-16 21:18:09 UTC  

(except put you in prison or something)

2020-11-16 21:18:30 UTC  

the idea that btc is not anonymous is true over many transactions

2020-11-16 21:18:46 UTC  

what country are you from?

2020-11-16 21:18:51 UTC  

I am from the US

2020-11-16 21:19:17 UTC  

for a single chain of transactions, it is feasible to plausibly deny that you are any longer connected to it

2020-11-16 21:20:10 UTC  

I mean they are trying to do what you say right now

2020-11-16 21:20:26 UTC  

in Venezuela currency trading offmarket is illegal, pretty sure