Message from @Whithers

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2020-11-17 02:38:46 UTC  

Well, @Maw , we can try harder if you were board.

2020-11-17 02:38:55 UTC  

I don't even look at the chat until the end so I miss all of that.

2020-11-17 02:39:07 UTC  

In which Locke does that principle appear? I have a pile of Locke which I've completely forgotten about with time.

2020-11-17 02:39:08 UTC  

Tonight was a bit critical of Trump's team so I had a feeling.

2020-11-17 02:39:20 UTC  

Yeah, it's understandable.

2020-11-17 02:39:24 UTC  

Tossed out a question about legal definitions earlier, should I toss it out again?

2020-11-17 02:39:28 UTC  

And personally I'm glad you were.

2020-11-17 02:39:41 UTC  

i guess most here are fam/work people

2020-11-17 02:39:51 UTC  

Critical is good if i can learn from it !

2020-11-17 02:40:35 UTC  

@Whithers I scrolled up and caught it. Did you have a link?

2020-11-17 02:40:37 UTC  

I looked up the statutory definition of voter in my state. It said a voter is a legal voter. Shouldn't the language be a bit better than using the term being defined in the definition?

2020-11-17 02:41:23 UTC  

so do you start the chat with an outline of where you want to go with it or are freestyle n it

2020-11-17 02:41:34 UTC  

RSMo 1.035. Voter defined. — Whenever the word "voter" is used in the laws of this state it shall mean registered voter, or legal voter.
https://revisor.mo.gov/main/OneSection.aspx?section=1.035&bid=47&hl=voter%u2044

2020-11-17 02:41:45 UTC  

Legal voter is an umbrella term. It's generally a permanent resident of the US that is over the age of 18 and has no prior felony conviction.

2020-11-17 02:42:38 UTC  

It is good to hear what the other side's argument actually is! without the Slanderous, Virtuous and accusatory statements.

2020-11-17 02:42:48 UTC  

Yea @Whithers looking here in Arizona we have a qualified electors statute: https://www.azleg.gov/viewdocument/?docName=https://www.azleg.gov/ars/16/00121.htm

2020-11-17 02:42:49 UTC  

Yeah, not real hip on the no felony convictions to vote. I think that protects judges way too much.

2020-11-17 02:43:16 UTC  

@osok the live chat is for the end of the show, I just take questions that I can catch as they scroll by. No rhyme or reason.

2020-11-17 02:43:28 UTC  

"Legal voter" is also different based on if the election is federal or state, IIRC. Robert likely knows more about this.

2020-11-17 02:43:43 UTC  

I think whithers that legal is pretty clear. Is it clear constitutionally since our laws our derived from that. Going to have to read the federalist papers more indepth

2020-11-17 02:43:57 UTC  

Yeah, now see much better description in Az statute.

2020-11-17 02:44:50 UTC  

yet much different state to state...

2020-11-17 02:45:26 UTC  

Interesting. How so?

2020-11-17 02:45:29 UTC  

AZ statute is great read

2020-11-17 02:46:32 UTC  

https://law.justia.com/codes/arizona/2011/title16/section16-165/ Is the exceptions for legal voters that the statuette doesn't describe there in-depth if you wanted it. @Whithers

2020-11-17 02:47:07 UTC  

I read a lot of the RSMo when I was an alderman here in my little pretentious village/4th class city. Some of what was written in it then couldn't be diagrammed as a sentence if one had Churchill and Einstein working together to figure it out.

2020-11-17 02:47:30 UTC  

I'm not sure how I feel about mentally deficient people being ineligible to vote, if I'm reading this right.

2020-11-17 02:47:41 UTC  

And that's sort of what it sounds like.

2020-11-17 02:48:07 UTC  

Well like if in Florida and a felon you may never vote again in their state. In Michigan it is only for the time that you are locked up mostly. yea yea Variance as to voting pratices and what is "Legal" is much different.

2020-11-17 02:48:32 UTC  

3. "Incapacitated person" means any person who is impaired by reason of mental illness, mental deficiency, mental disorder, physical illness or disability, chronic use of drugs, chronic intoxication or other cause, except minority, to the extent that he lacks sufficient understanding or capacity to make or communicate responsible decisions concerning his person. In cases of limited guardianship only, a person is not deemed an incapacitated person for purposes of voting if the person files a petition and has a hearing and the judge determines by clear and convincing evidence that the person retains sufficient understanding to exercise the right to vote pursuant to section 14-5304.02.

2020-11-17 02:48:35 UTC  

That's the definition @Maw

2020-11-17 02:48:37 UTC  

Well, just remember that someone has to decide who is and isn't mentally deficient. Which would mean social scientists, who are all on the Left, deciding all conservatives are mentally deficient and cannot vote.

2020-11-17 02:48:44 UTC  

Could one not just move, then?

2020-11-17 02:49:04 UTC  

question is what states change the law with electoral vote if biden dosent make it and drops out of race now

2020-11-17 02:49:35 UTC  

So basically anyone that's considered still a dependant over the age of 18?

2020-11-17 02:49:41 UTC  

Legally, anyway.

2020-11-17 02:49:49 UTC  

Faithless electors' fate is entirely up to the states to enforce, as far as I know.

2020-11-17 02:49:57 UTC  

In utah it is legal for felon to vote as long as they are not incarcerated on probation or parole.

2020-11-17 02:50:30 UTC  

I suppose but how does that work? How is that not considered Voter Suppression in both accounts.

2020-11-17 02:50:33 UTC  

We have had incredibly few occurrences of the EC differing from popular opinion.

2020-11-17 02:51:14 UTC  

@Maw we have a legal process here to make that determination but practically I don't know how it would work.