Message from @Whithers

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2020-11-17 03:17:59 UTC  

name one police dept where that a requirment

2020-11-17 03:18:07 UTC  

Here in detroit you only had to be able to do 60 pushups in under 1 min and that would get you in but that was back in the day...

2020-11-17 03:18:52 UTC  

i went to school for CJ only few years but i know more then most officers do

2020-11-17 03:19:08 UTC  

Most of the training involved with policing is actually quite in-depth. In the US it likely could use some refreshers every few years, as I think police forget certain parts over time.

2020-11-17 03:19:10 UTC  

@osok Was just wondering if you asked me the question, I didn't want to answer if it was to someone else. I have a dual BA (History/Communications Theory).

2020-11-17 03:19:30 UTC  

nice

2020-11-17 03:19:48 UTC  

Kind of like how you have to get first aid credentials renewed every few years.

2020-11-17 03:20:04 UTC  

Sadly, I enjoy my minors more than my majors: Ethical Philosophy, Religion, and Political Science. LOL

2020-11-17 03:20:13 UTC  

look the system isnt work that well whats the harm in try n something diff

2020-11-17 03:20:25 UTC  

They necessarily, literally have to summarily suspend constitutional rights in order to do the job. That's been legislated. The problem is that that necessity is so important that it needs to be protected to a degree that almost guarantees abuse.

2020-11-17 03:20:30 UTC  

Depends on how you can change the system.

2020-11-17 03:20:34 UTC  

ok i get it

2020-11-17 03:20:38 UTC  

Cops here have to get 60 days training in a year in addition to other qualifications.

2020-11-17 03:20:47 UTC  

need to renew just to work on a car so yea i 100% agree @Maw

2020-11-17 03:20:58 UTC  

should be more

2020-11-17 03:21:28 UTC  

As it is, most officers don't get more than about 3 hours worth of policing in per day.

2020-11-17 03:21:45 UTC  

It's mostly paperwork, yes.

2020-11-17 03:21:54 UTC  

And it's soul-drainingly boring.

2020-11-17 03:22:20 UTC  

i heard that some department wont hire if the iq is to high

2020-11-17 03:22:26 UTC  

my ASE would expire every 4 yrs why doesn't a cop have something like that?

2020-11-17 03:22:52 UTC  

When I was an OTR truck driver, my knowledge of police work schedules and protocols was handy. I always knew when they would not be on the road because they were doing the 2 to 3 hours of shift paperwork to go home, or the hour of set up to leave the shop after they started their shift.

2020-11-17 03:23:40 UTC  

They have standards and certifications out the wazoo. Problem is you can't certify for behavior. Only demonstration of knowledge.

2020-11-17 03:24:15 UTC  

Pretty sure that they do judge you based on behaviour.

2020-11-17 03:24:22 UTC  

its a hard job and thank god they want to do it

2020-11-17 03:24:36 UTC  

They do give you practical realistic scenarios in which you have to make the right choice in order to be deemed fit to serve.

2020-11-17 03:24:52 UTC  

@Zuluzeit They have to take psyche profiles here to get a badge.

2020-11-17 03:24:55 UTC  

Apparently not to the degree they should. It's subjective.

2020-11-17 03:25:09 UTC  

That's a separate argument, but I agree.

2020-11-17 03:25:15 UTC  

It shouldn't be an easy answer.

2020-11-17 03:25:22 UTC  

And they should have to elaborate on their choice.

2020-11-17 03:25:25 UTC  

look the train corse is what 6 month to become officer

2020-11-17 03:25:27 UTC  

In a way that's acceptable.

2020-11-17 03:25:33 UTC  

standards and certifications for all the wrong stuff like how to do cpr and stuff yea i dont see how that could translate to being a better cop.

2020-11-17 03:27:05 UTC  

i see lot of mistakes in police reports and that is scary and some of stunts they pull is unbliveable

2020-11-17 03:27:23 UTC  

That is certainly an issue, yes.

2020-11-17 03:27:24 UTC  

I had a friend that retired to Az, Bizby? I think. When he joined the KCPD in 1957, the only training he got was being put in uniform and pointed at the saloons/bars. He told me he thought he was going to get beat to death before he made it off probation.

2020-11-17 03:27:42 UTC  

I'm not sure how much training it takes to know not to torque an arm of someone you just chained merely because you're aggravated.

2020-11-17 03:27:49 UTC  

more school get better outcomes

2020-11-17 03:28:18 UTC  

I think police should have better control over their emotions, agreed.

2020-11-17 03:28:24 UTC  

@osok I disagree. Money can solve problems but it cannot fix issues.

2020-11-17 03:28:25 UTC  

And there should be a standard applied.