Message from @osok

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2020-11-17 03:20:30 UTC  

Depends on how you can change the system.

2020-11-17 03:20:34 UTC  

ok i get it

2020-11-17 03:20:38 UTC  

Cops here have to get 60 days training in a year in addition to other qualifications.

2020-11-17 03:20:47 UTC  

need to renew just to work on a car so yea i 100% agree @Maw

2020-11-17 03:20:58 UTC  

should be more

2020-11-17 03:21:28 UTC  

As it is, most officers don't get more than about 3 hours worth of policing in per day.

2020-11-17 03:21:45 UTC  

It's mostly paperwork, yes.

2020-11-17 03:21:54 UTC  

And it's soul-drainingly boring.

2020-11-17 03:22:20 UTC  

i heard that some department wont hire if the iq is to high

2020-11-17 03:22:26 UTC  

my ASE would expire every 4 yrs why doesn't a cop have something like that?

2020-11-17 03:22:52 UTC  

When I was an OTR truck driver, my knowledge of police work schedules and protocols was handy. I always knew when they would not be on the road because they were doing the 2 to 3 hours of shift paperwork to go home, or the hour of set up to leave the shop after they started their shift.

2020-11-17 03:23:40 UTC  

They have standards and certifications out the wazoo. Problem is you can't certify for behavior. Only demonstration of knowledge.

2020-11-17 03:24:15 UTC  

Pretty sure that they do judge you based on behaviour.

2020-11-17 03:24:22 UTC  

its a hard job and thank god they want to do it

2020-11-17 03:24:36 UTC  

They do give you practical realistic scenarios in which you have to make the right choice in order to be deemed fit to serve.

2020-11-17 03:24:52 UTC  

@Zuluzeit They have to take psyche profiles here to get a badge.

2020-11-17 03:24:55 UTC  

Apparently not to the degree they should. It's subjective.

2020-11-17 03:25:09 UTC  

That's a separate argument, but I agree.

2020-11-17 03:25:15 UTC  

It shouldn't be an easy answer.

2020-11-17 03:25:22 UTC  

And they should have to elaborate on their choice.

2020-11-17 03:25:25 UTC  

look the train corse is what 6 month to become officer

2020-11-17 03:25:27 UTC  

In a way that's acceptable.

2020-11-17 03:25:33 UTC  

standards and certifications for all the wrong stuff like how to do cpr and stuff yea i dont see how that could translate to being a better cop.

2020-11-17 03:27:05 UTC  

i see lot of mistakes in police reports and that is scary and some of stunts they pull is unbliveable

2020-11-17 03:27:23 UTC  

That is certainly an issue, yes.

2020-11-17 03:27:24 UTC  

I had a friend that retired to Az, Bizby? I think. When he joined the KCPD in 1957, the only training he got was being put in uniform and pointed at the saloons/bars. He told me he thought he was going to get beat to death before he made it off probation.

2020-11-17 03:27:42 UTC  

I'm not sure how much training it takes to know not to torque an arm of someone you just chained merely because you're aggravated.

2020-11-17 03:27:49 UTC  

more school get better outcomes

2020-11-17 03:28:18 UTC  

I think police should have better control over their emotions, agreed.

2020-11-17 03:28:24 UTC  

@osok I disagree. Money can solve problems but it cannot fix issues.

2020-11-17 03:28:25 UTC  

And there should be a standard applied.

2020-11-17 03:28:50 UTC  

There is no motive beyond conscience.

2020-11-17 03:29:13 UTC  

Their job comes with confrontation and regular conflict, they should be able to remain calm and act accordingly despite strenuous circumstances, and prove as much.

2020-11-17 03:29:24 UTC  

Yes.

2020-11-17 03:29:31 UTC  

No argument there.

2020-11-17 03:29:32 UTC  

not 100% that many have one of those @Zuluzeit

2020-11-17 03:29:38 UTC  

And yet here we are

2020-11-17 03:29:49 UTC  

that what im say n...better arrest better outcomes (well not for rob lol)

2020-11-17 03:29:49 UTC  

I remember in college, studying the Myers-Briggs Behavioral Typology, that Police, School Teachers, and Politicians were like 85% all from the same category: Sensor-Feeler.

2020-11-17 03:30:09 UTC  

that test was great

2020-11-17 03:30:42 UTC  

@Shitty Kitty Shittylol exactly my point. That's why training isn't a comprehensive solution. Nor would I argue the most deficient area atm.