Message from @Maw

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2020-11-19 14:43:53 UTC  

If you go to google scholar, you will find an option called "case law". That is precedences, yes? American law students doing phDs, do so by studying case law, yes? Making their work as relevant as the actual law.

2020-11-19 14:44:52 UTC  

This is where your system differs massively from ours, where laws themselves are studied and interpreted by Nestors.

2020-11-19 14:45:02 UTC  

@Zuluzeit exactly since the legislature's of any state are the creators of law. It clearly in the u.s. constitution

2020-11-19 14:46:04 UTC  

I think we should have a lawyer to supervise this discussion. I am trying to think of one.

2020-11-19 14:46:12 UTC  

Lmao

2020-11-19 14:48:44 UTC  

@Doc clearly now i understand that you aren't from U.S. I thought you were. Because when in grade school you had a class called social studies and this was all explained there. But they have discontinued it today

2020-11-19 14:51:02 UTC  

I just don't get the part where you question what the law is, require citations, get spoon fed more law than any human being should be subjected to, and still object.

2020-11-19 14:51:10 UTC  

@Maw that deals with individuals not groups or whole States

2020-11-19 14:52:21 UTC  

@mtpockets59 I am not. So I stand corrected. The american legal system is not one of precedence?

2020-11-19 14:55:08 UTC  

Groups and states are composed of individuals.

2020-11-19 14:55:51 UTC  

Details

2020-11-19 14:57:40 UTC  

@Maw but "Laws" are not made specific individuals or groups . They are remedies for issues. By the legislature's that are elected by the people.

2020-11-19 14:58:11 UTC  

well, if The american legal system is not precedence based, is Miranda rights based on a law signed by president Miranda?

2020-11-19 14:58:43 UTC  

This is legislation. I'm so confused.

2020-11-19 14:59:07 UTC  

Miranda rights is legislation...is there a Miranda law?

2020-11-19 14:59:17 UTC  

I am confused now too.

2020-11-19 14:59:58 UTC  

I thought Miranda rights came from a court ruling and the academic understanding of the transfer-ability(?) of that ruling.

2020-11-19 15:00:16 UTC  

making those works extremely relevant in a traffic stop and DWI.

2020-11-19 15:12:14 UTC  

Miranda stole that election btw. It's weird that they named it using her first name though.

2020-11-19 15:15:35 UTC  

And yet people still don't practice their 5th amendment rights sadly.

2020-11-19 15:15:35 UTC  

@Maw, you just advanced to level 6!

2020-11-19 15:17:33 UTC  

Discretionary silence is useful in many areas, I reckon.

2020-11-19 15:18:00 UTC  

Miranda was his last name by the way.

2020-11-19 15:18:45 UTC  

Not. My. President.

2020-11-19 15:20:35 UTC  

@Maw lol I know what it was. I was playing around with something Doc said about President Miranda.

2020-11-19 15:20:46 UTC  

I was so confused. lol

2020-11-19 15:20:51 UTC  

It's still early.

2020-11-19 15:21:08 UTC  

Hahaha I get it, man.

2020-11-19 15:22:17 UTC  

My fault for partially reading conversations tbh

2020-11-19 15:22:27 UTC  

Bad habit.

2020-11-19 15:23:48 UTC  

I do it with articles people post all the time too. Lol

2020-11-19 15:24:16 UTC  

Some of them I can only skim, to keep my lunch down.

2020-11-19 16:01:41 UTC  

@Zuluzeit For the record, I am not under the impression that Miranda was a president. I was just deducting that he would have to have been, if the actual laws are the only relevant piece of legislation.

2020-11-19 16:02:07 UTC  

Either that, or I am a moron trying to cover up the latter fact.

2020-11-19 16:05:08 UTC  

Well he was stabbed to death after getting into a fight at a bar.

2020-11-19 16:06:21 UTC  

Spectacular lives often have spectacular ends.

2020-11-19 16:06:44 UTC  

Bleeding out is not painful, so in retrospect, not the worst of endings.

2020-11-19 16:07:12 UTC  

I propose a toast to the flippant and spectacular mr. Miranda.

2020-11-19 16:07:23 UTC  

Hahahaha