Message from @Maw

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2020-12-09 22:17:53 UTC  

The police should never be investigating the police for starters.

2020-12-09 22:18:17 UTC  

More civilian oversight/accountability.

2020-12-09 22:18:26 UTC  

@Maw definetly not internally

2020-12-09 22:18:31 UTC  

I doubt that will happen

2020-12-09 22:18:37 UTC  

i agree its a solution

2020-12-09 22:18:43 UTC  

but not one that would happen

2020-12-09 22:19:39 UTC  

whats the mechanism for civilian oversight? who chooses the commitee? how do we prevent it from becoming another govt position rife with abuse

2020-12-09 22:19:45 UTC  

Body cameras were the first step.

2020-12-09 22:20:13 UTC  

I'm going back to election 2020 with my malfactor fellows.

2020-12-09 22:20:22 UTC  

have fun in the ring

2020-12-09 22:21:03 UTC  

The body cam should be live streamed all the time... With a channel for each officer

2020-12-09 22:21:07 UTC  

body cameras work because they benefit both the police and the citizenry

2020-12-09 22:21:13 UTC  

i doubt the police will willingly give up power

2020-12-09 22:21:47 UTC  

It's about making the process as transparent as possible.

2020-12-09 22:21:47 UTC  

sorry, body cameras are adopted because they benefit both the police and the citizenry

2020-12-09 22:21:55 UTC  

right, i agree that is the ideal we should strive for

2020-12-09 22:22:09 UTC  

but im saying what is a solution that can be implemented realistically

2020-12-09 22:22:17 UTC  

given our political situation today

2020-12-09 22:22:23 UTC  

Well, let's go for starters:

2020-12-09 22:22:55 UTC  

Every time there is an officer involved shooting or responding officers to a weapons discharge, you put the camera footage in a file available to the public domain without request.

2020-12-09 22:23:23 UTC  

Every time there is a vehicle collision with an officer as well.

2020-12-09 22:23:30 UTC  

there are privacy laws that would conflict with that i believe

2020-12-09 22:23:34 UTC  

in many states

2020-12-09 22:23:42 UTC  

they would have to redact facial information of anyone not involved

2020-12-09 22:23:45 UTC  

Some states already do this.

2020-12-09 22:23:50 UTC  

right

2020-12-09 22:24:14 UTC  

but this requires nationwide bodycam rollout, and budgets for the data storage and editing

2020-12-09 22:24:30 UTC  

the left does not want to give any more money to the police, the right does not want to put any more oversight on the police

2020-12-09 22:24:39 UTC  

I'm not a proponent of the defund the police movement.

2020-12-09 22:25:05 UTC  

im not saying you are im talking about the political situation in general its stuck at an impasse realistically

2020-12-09 22:25:12 UTC  

i'm not sure how legislation could be crafted

2020-12-09 22:25:31 UTC  

I don't think anyone would disagree if you labeled an increase in funding specifically for more oversight.

2020-12-09 22:25:39 UTC  

I think almost everyone would agree to this.

2020-12-09 22:25:41 UTC  

Even the right.

2020-12-09 22:25:50 UTC  

im not so sure about that

2020-12-09 22:26:00 UTC  

@RobertGrulerEsq They cant demonitize or censor if you are in legal discussions or news and id say a scotus case is both.

2020-12-09 22:26:00 UTC  

@dnindustry, you just advanced to level 3!

2020-12-09 22:26:19 UTC  

@dnindustry they can and do to many streamers

2020-12-09 22:26:47 UTC  

Remember all the time in the recent news cycles they've censored articles?

2020-12-09 22:27:14 UTC  

So apparently we have 17 attorney generals supporting the Texas Case? And if the court allows tomorrow or friday 7 to join. Anyone else see this?

2020-12-09 22:30:06 UTC  

Everyone in the pile