Message from @Lilbigstuff

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2020-12-09 22:15:44 UTC  

A lot of Police stuations you see today is due to type of training or education they had

2020-12-09 22:16:15 UTC  

and the police will get worse with the defunding

2020-12-09 22:16:25 UTC  

im not a 'get rid of the police person'

2020-12-09 22:16:35 UTC  

i honestly dont see a solution, there will always be brutality and negligence

2020-12-09 22:16:41 UTC  

Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun (Chinese: 枪杆子里面出政权; pinyin: Qiānggǎn zi lǐmiàn chū zhèngquán) is a phrase which was coined by Chinese communist leader Mao Zedong.

2020-12-09 22:16:46 UTC  

Hold them to a higher standard.

2020-12-09 22:16:50 UTC  

That's the solution.

2020-12-09 22:16:53 UTC  

@Maw how?

2020-12-09 22:16:55 UTC  

Well, one part.

2020-12-09 22:17:04 UTC  

how do you hold people to a higher standard when you dont have recourse

2020-12-09 22:17:07 UTC  

Well get rid of qualified immunity for one.

2020-12-09 22:17:12 UTC  

you make the standard too high nobody takes the job

2020-12-09 22:17:14 UTC  

get rid of qualified immunity, make Skidmore great again would be a good start @ImNotGas 🙂

2020-12-09 22:17:15 UTC  

Most police in many areas have a tremendous amount of stuff shoved upon their shoulders

2020-12-09 22:17:32 UTC  

@Uncivil Law i'm fine with removing qual immune and requiring them to carry some form of malpractice insurance

2020-12-09 22:17:43 UTC  

All the levers of power in the system have been short-circuited there is no recourse.

2020-12-09 22:17:46 UTC  

This state is full of single issue voters that get pissed if you point it out pfft

2020-12-09 22:17:47 UTC  

but with their lobbying power this cost will move to the taxpayer

2020-12-09 22:17:53 UTC  

The police should never be investigating the police for starters.

2020-12-09 22:18:17 UTC  

More civilian oversight/accountability.

2020-12-09 22:18:26 UTC  

@Maw definetly not internally

2020-12-09 22:18:31 UTC  

I doubt that will happen

2020-12-09 22:18:37 UTC  

i agree its a solution

2020-12-09 22:18:43 UTC  

but not one that would happen

2020-12-09 22:19:39 UTC  

whats the mechanism for civilian oversight? who chooses the commitee? how do we prevent it from becoming another govt position rife with abuse

2020-12-09 22:19:45 UTC  

Body cameras were the first step.

2020-12-09 22:20:13 UTC  

I'm going back to election 2020 with my malfactor fellows.

2020-12-09 22:20:22 UTC  

have fun in the ring

2020-12-09 22:21:03 UTC  

The body cam should be live streamed all the time... With a channel for each officer

2020-12-09 22:21:07 UTC  

body cameras work because they benefit both the police and the citizenry

2020-12-09 22:21:13 UTC  

i doubt the police will willingly give up power

2020-12-09 22:21:47 UTC  

It's about making the process as transparent as possible.

2020-12-09 22:21:47 UTC  

sorry, body cameras are adopted because they benefit both the police and the citizenry

2020-12-09 22:21:55 UTC  

right, i agree that is the ideal we should strive for

2020-12-09 22:22:09 UTC  

but im saying what is a solution that can be implemented realistically

2020-12-09 22:22:17 UTC  

given our political situation today

2020-12-09 22:22:23 UTC  

Well, let's go for starters:

2020-12-09 22:22:55 UTC  

Every time there is an officer involved shooting or responding officers to a weapons discharge, you put the camera footage in a file available to the public domain without request.

2020-12-09 22:23:23 UTC  

Every time there is a vehicle collision with an officer as well.

2020-12-09 22:23:30 UTC  

there are privacy laws that would conflict with that i believe

2020-12-09 22:23:34 UTC  

in many states