Cops get into the business because they really want to help people.

Eh I wouldn't generalize them that much. They certainly have their bias though.

They do, but they also get carried away trying to do that.

@busillis i'd agree they go in with good intentions

@ImNotGas I should become a social worker but I need a master's degree for that... I think I'll become up cop.

I was joking.

@busillis i'm not anti police, i just see them as humans with power

How much do you think average people know about politics in a country where half dont even show up to vote 😂

A lot of Police stuations you see today is due to type of training or education they had

and the police will get worse with the defunding

im not a 'get rid of the police person'

i honestly dont see a solution, there will always be brutality and negligence

Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun (Chinese: 枪杆子里面出政权; pinyin: Qiānggǎn zi lǐmiàn chū zhèngquán) is a phrase which was coined by Chinese communist leader Mao Zedong.

Hold them to a higher standard.

That's the solution.

@Maw how?

Well, one part.

how do you hold people to a higher standard when you dont have recourse

Well get rid of qualified immunity for one.

you make the standard too high nobody takes the job

get rid of qualified immunity, make Skidmore great again would be a good start @ImNotGas 🙂

Most police in many areas have a tremendous amount of stuff shoved upon their shoulders

@Uncivil Law i'm fine with removing qual immune and requiring them to carry some form of malpractice insurance

All the levers of power in the system have been short-circuited there is no recourse.

This state is full of single issue voters that get pissed if you point it out pfft

but with their lobbying power this cost will move to the taxpayer

The police should never be investigating the police for starters.

More civilian oversight/accountability.

@Maw definetly not internally

I doubt that will happen

i agree its a solution

but not one that would happen

whats the mechanism for civilian oversight? who chooses the commitee? how do we prevent it from becoming another govt position rife with abuse

Body cameras were the first step.

I'm going back to election 2020 with my malfactor fellows.

have fun in the ring

The body cam should be live streamed all the time... With a channel for each officer

body cameras work because they benefit both the police and the citizenry

i doubt the police will willingly give up power

It's about making the process as transparent as possible.

sorry, body cameras are adopted because they benefit both the police and the citizenry