what kind of study do you suppose for Mortality? an RCT?

because what you see above is supported by large naturalistic comparatives.

@Whithers yeah i heard that he could do that before the inauguration if it doesn't go well for him

@Doc You cannot know what life years are lost. There is no experience of what did not occur. Everything in the mathematical projection is merely mathematical projection and not observed reality.

@Whithers which is all medical statistics.

what is your point?

He could do it anytime. I just don't think he will. Don Jr maybe, but not daddy.

we do not measure counterfacts.

No it is not all medical statistics. Only those.

well, then how would you design a study of Mortaliy?

You can only prove what is positive experience. I am not saying the other is without value - but in Western Logic it has no validity as a truth claim. It has not existed. One cannot posit a value on the vastness of the void. It is an absence of evidence. Without the experience of the evidence, a conclusion is only supposition.

speaking of statistics ... with the sample size of the duplicated ballots they did in AZ, the projection onto the entire population of duplicated ballots of the results from the sample is within 3 percent of true with 99 percent confidence level ... assuming random sampling etc.

@Whithers How would you design a study of mortality?

@Whithers There is no such thing as evidence in science. Epistemology 101.

I think you're waxing philosophical here when there's no real reason to

In near Eastern logic one can ask,"All though it is impossible, what if ... ?" But in Western Logic, hence science, that speculation into what can not be observed is not evidentiary. @Doc

@Whithers How would you design a study of Mortality?

I told you. You can only look at the real. You cannot project what did not occur.

That answer makes no sense.

Describe the methodology, please?

@Whithers we want to study the mortality among 20-25 year old females in Canada. What research design do you suppose?

@Doc <Hands Doc an empty plate> Enjoy your speculated cheeseburger and fries. 🙁

its fine to use life years, its not projecting.

@Whithers Carry on. 😂

No, it isn't. And I hate it when corporations pull that same math BS. "I choose to expect to make 1 trillion dollars this year!" Oops, I only made 1 billion, so I have a 99 billion dollar loss to file for my taxes.

yes it is

this is pretty much what science does, it builds models fit what we observe and turns the dials on the models to see what we can expect if we change the input ... folks can argue about how useful it is but doing so on a discord chat whose very existence depends on numerous technologies all brought to you by that same model building seems counter-productive to say the least

for example, if you have lets say diabetes

@meglide you cant do that, because you dont know what change is.

I speculate I will live 250 years. So my lost life years will be I speculate 178 years.

in the western system change is poorly defined, so an study of "change" would be wrong

@Whithers it doesnt work like that

because you cant define change.

@Whithers You cant do that, because you arent meta-speculating.

you first need to understand that you are speculating, and then assess the amount of speculating over that speculation.

it's my model I know where the knobs are and I turn them if I want to ... so stop pushing my buttons 😛

That is what all of it is @Doc.

ROFL

@meglide we dont now what "knob" means either.

@Whithers what is "all"?

we dont know that either