Message from @Whithers

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2020-12-10 02:55:55 UTC  

he said predictor he did not say cause

2020-12-10 02:56:03 UTC  

predictor=correlation not causation

2020-12-10 02:56:54 UTC  

Separating diseases into various categories s invalid.

2020-12-10 02:57:05 UTC  

how so?

2020-12-10 02:57:25 UTC  

right @Doc I'm trying to keep my heart healthy so I can live long enough to die from cancer

2020-12-10 02:57:48 UTC  

heart disease and diabetes is largely controllable regardless of your environment

2020-12-10 02:57:51 UTC  

when we apply for research grants we have to come up with a new trendy research idea, but in fact if we were given money to install toilets on the street we would probably have more impact. nobody wants to fund that type of research study

2020-12-10 02:57:52 UTC  

typhus and malaria are not

2020-12-10 02:58:00 UTC  

Because the list I gave of things we have addressed and treated medically was ejusdem generis.

2020-12-10 02:58:26 UTC  
2020-12-10 02:58:30 UTC  

"Results Infectious disease mortality declined during the first 8 decades of the 20th century from 797 deaths per 100,000 in 1900 to 36 deaths per 100,000 in 1980. From 1981 to 1995, the mortality rate increased to a peak of 63 deaths per 100,000 in 1995 and declined to 59 deaths per 100,000 in 1996. "

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772982351520333824/786426589717200926/joc80862.pdf

2020-12-10 02:59:11 UTC  

@MatiLuc This is more like part 4 or 7. But NYC didn't put up with the efforts there.

2020-12-10 02:59:29 UTC  

sometimes they refer to it as the CHODE

2020-12-10 02:59:36 UTC  

is it something different?

2020-12-10 03:00:33 UTC  

Please note here that especially infections diseases of the OBST-ward (started dropping with antibiotics) had a massive impact on MR, if you measure mortality not in persons, but in lost "lifeyears"

2020-12-10 03:00:44 UTC  

@Phil- I am not sure. How many categories of Chaz do we have to observe for the 72 recognized genders?

2020-12-10 03:01:12 UTC  

@Whithers only 72?

2020-12-10 03:02:29 UTC  

@Doc That is an interesting theory, but one cannot measure against what is only theoretically calculable and has never been defined through rigorous controlled and comparative studies.

2020-12-10 03:02:38 UTC  

trump should troll them by letting it stand, maybe he can get some electoral votes

2020-12-10 03:03:23 UTC  

@Phil Prolly not. My genders are I don't give a Martian's flying saucer and ground squirrels eat dinosaurs.

2020-12-10 03:04:10 UTC  

I really think Trump should have worn a Muumuu some April 1 and declared himself the first woman president.

2020-12-10 03:04:17 UTC  

@Whithers makes no sense

2020-12-10 03:04:24 UTC  

youd have to rephrase

2020-12-10 03:04:46 UTC  

what kind of study do you suppose for Mortality? an RCT?

2020-12-10 03:05:12 UTC  

because what you see above is supported by large naturalistic comparatives.

2020-12-10 03:05:19 UTC  

@Whithers yeah i heard that he could do that before the inauguration if it doesn't go well for him

2020-12-10 03:05:22 UTC  

@Doc You cannot know what life years are lost. There is no experience of what did not occur. Everything in the mathematical projection is merely mathematical projection and not observed reality.

2020-12-10 03:05:50 UTC  

@Whithers which is all medical statistics.

2020-12-10 03:05:53 UTC  

what is your point?

2020-12-10 03:05:58 UTC  

He could do it anytime. I just don't think he will. Don Jr maybe, but not daddy.

2020-12-10 03:06:06 UTC  

we do not measure counterfacts.

2020-12-10 03:06:15 UTC  

No it is not all medical statistics. Only those.

2020-12-10 03:06:29 UTC  

well, then how would you design a study of Mortaliy?

2020-12-10 03:08:23 UTC  

You can only prove what is positive experience. I am not saying the other is without value - but in Western Logic it has no validity as a truth claim. It has not existed. One cannot posit a value on the vastness of the void. It is an absence of evidence. Without the experience of the evidence, a conclusion is only supposition.

2020-12-10 03:08:49 UTC  

speaking of statistics ... with the sample size of the duplicated ballots they did in AZ, the projection onto the entire population of duplicated ballots of the results from the sample is within 3 percent of true with 99 percent confidence level ... assuming random sampling etc.

2020-12-10 03:09:15 UTC  

@Whithers How would you design a study of mortality?

2020-12-10 03:09:38 UTC  

@Whithers There is no such thing as evidence in science. Epistemology 101.

2020-12-10 03:09:51 UTC  

I think you're waxing philosophical here when there's no real reason to

2020-12-10 03:10:00 UTC  

In near Eastern logic one can ask,"All though it is impossible, what if ... ?" But in Western Logic, hence science, that speculation into what can not be observed is not evidentiary. @Doc

2020-12-10 03:10:21 UTC  

@Whithers How would you design a study of Mortality?

2020-12-10 03:10:45 UTC  

I told you. You can only look at the real. You cannot project what did not occur.