Message from @eclair088
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We are a constitutional republic so as long as we keep the pressure on idiots like Newsom and Garcetti, we should be able to avoid the autocratic natures. However, the authoritarian is likely different than autocratic?
Dubious, It requires a scholastic want, and adulterating language into synonyms lacks learned objectives.
I have a very hard time making a case for the right putting 'the nation or race (or anything) above the individual'...
Yes they are not the same.
Please define it. I am not going for academic, I am just trying to get a definition so we can argue about fascism better
Mahmood
Slippery slope. Don't bite.
The abstract sense which I have for facism seems to be where the greater good (nation) is placed over the individual. Not always race like Italian or German, but perhaps a diverse population could do it if it is ideological. ... And then they stamp out freedom of speech. But it has some leader who decides everything.
Although fascist parties and movements differed significantly from one another, they had many characteristics in common, including extreme militaristic nationalism, contempt for electoral democracy and political and cultural liberalism, a belief in natural social hierarchy and the rule of elites, and the desire to create a Volksgemeinschaft (German: “people’s community”), in which individual interests would be subordinated to the good of the nation. At the end of World War II, the major European fascist parties were broken up, and in some countries (such as Italy and West Germany) they were officially banned."
@Maw Then again, it's your 3 hours to give with no return on it. Knock yourself out. Lmao
Merriam Webster has been a Leftist controlled POS for decades. They are wrong.
fas·cism (făsh′ĭz′əm)
n.
1. often Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
And this definition is slightly inaccurate. Fascism is not typical of "belligerent nationalism and racism" but rather typical of identitarian ideologies which are used to divide and conquer the proletariat for Marxist/Socialist agendas - as is done by the Democratic Party.
True nuff, waiting for my dinner to finish cooking.
Which it is.
Back to Merriam-Webster's
The constitutional right does not place nation above individual. Because "we the people" are a collective of individuals. Which is why governance is to be done as close to each individual as possible, while not interferring too much with everyone else. ... Murder is illegal because it is interferrence, whereas deciding how to pay taxes affects everyone but can be justified for the national defense.
Correct, identitarian for expediency to effect socialism. So, to promote Black Lives over against and segregated from all others is a necessity for a Leftist.
Absolute monarchy Hunter Biden as king.
Pretty much
I will never recognize the corrupt dictionaries of the Left. They are treacherous crap intended to promote circular reasoning and destroy the foundations of truth.
What do you recognize pray tell?
Agreed. However, we need to have a starting point because if we cannot agree on a sense, we keep bickering over the term without getting anywhere. At least by having a definition, even if it is bad, we can work with it to have a better sense.
Racism is not facism. Hitler took power to relieve the oppression of the Germans, while the racists funded his efforts and used the open field to enact their ideas.
I would say that Biden is Hitler, Kamala is the racist.
Decrying the entire dictionary is kind of impossible. Though, condemning things like Dictionary.com changing definitions ON THE FLY to support leftists as demonstrably evil is totally legit
Biden is Hitler? Really.
Correct. The individual is sacrosanct under the Constitution. The individual is made in the imago Dei and endowed with inalienable rights. All justice is individual justice. Justice can never be social, or it becomes unjust.
Harris may turn out to be Stalin...
That's some unhinged leftist shit in reverse or something I don't know what the f....@eclair088
And really Stalin makes Hitler look like choir boy.
What about the chairman?
He makes them both look like girl scouts.
Fair Question!
Joe Biden can never live up to the power and the glory of the chairman...
I tolerate the American Heritage Dictionary as updated in 2016. I use the Unabridged Oxford Dictionary of the English Language reproduced from Microfiche 1972. Before the declaration by Leftist educators that all publications from before 1973 are politically incorrect.
I dont' think Biden will. He'll just be dead in 3 months.
He seriously should hire a food taster.
The contempt for electoral democracy seems to be due to the seeming "do nothing" of the politicians of Weimar. However, the best governments do nothing. That is why American government has as many automatic gridlocks in it as possible. ... However, because of economics and everyone feeling empathetic to the poor (those who struggled to get their daily breed), they were listening to those who had accepted the poison of despair.
I read Mein Kampf. It was unfortunate what happened in Germany. To become corrupted is the worst. ... Thankfully, my family saved Jews in the Rheinland so I have that. 🙂 And my grandma escaped the Soviets on the Berlin Airlift.
@eclair088, you just advanced to level 5!
See my statement above concerning what dictionaries I accept and why.
That's not true. Weimar had hyper inflation. Doing nothing was a really really bad policy
On this we agree.
Yeah. Because everyone thinks of Hitler as some evil guy. ... I think he was just a tool trying to do right for the people, but was a misguided centrist and thus ended up letting in the racists who took control of power under him.
Everyone looks at the atrocities and blames the big guy it happened under. ... No one looks much at how it started, except the surface details saying "we must never let this happen again".
That is why the anti-fascists are the most fascist among us. ... They are literally trying to fight fire with fire, instead of with water.