Message from @Gypsy

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2020-12-22 03:42:06 UTC  

Also source

2020-12-22 03:42:15 UTC  

Econ degree

2020-12-22 03:42:17 UTC  

how is it helping when his own folks are calling for boycotting the election

2020-12-22 03:42:46 UTC  

The fact you don’t know think that’s wrong explains how economically literate you are.

2020-12-22 03:42:54 UTC  

That’s pretty well known

2020-12-22 03:42:57 UTC  

oh so only full monetization counts ... not partial

2020-12-22 03:43:12 UTC  

Open market operations aren’t new

2020-12-22 03:43:33 UTC  

So reimagining them as debt monetization conflates the issue

2020-12-22 03:43:45 UTC  

They are like 50 plus years old

2020-12-22 03:44:19 UTC  

Even Volcker had the ability to conduct Open Market operations

2020-12-22 03:44:23 UTC  

you are correction "partial" monetization has been going on for 50 years

2020-12-22 03:45:03 UTC  

last federal reserve chair with the ability to raise rates it seems

2020-12-22 03:45:07 UTC  

Also I have explained why you are incorrect several times. If you still don’t understand then either I am not the best person to explain it or you are unwilling to learn.

2020-12-22 03:45:16 UTC  

That’s will make everything harder. The dems will undo everything and make us closer to social healthcare. I was an insurance agent. Securities license. If we go to social healthcare it will bankrupt some hospitals they can’t make it on Medicare allowable@meglide

2020-12-22 03:46:06 UTC  

The only reason anyone would even call these open market operations debt monetization is because they have dropped the moral hazard doctrine

2020-12-22 03:46:06 UTC  

@Gypsy, you just advanced to level 4!

2020-12-22 03:46:58 UTC  

@Gypsy what I noticed is you don't answer my questions

2020-12-22 03:47:01 UTC  

Also I don’t want to go on if you are going to insult me. I know what I am talking about, I am not trying to prove anything, I was trying to add to your knowledge base. It’s of no benefit if you don’t want to hear it.

2020-12-22 03:47:22 UTC  

I mean of you know what open market operations are then you know I did. 😂

2020-12-22 03:48:20 UTC  

And truthfully, monetary base expansions are always inflation positive. But rates have opposite short term and long term effects because people adapt to change.

2020-12-22 03:50:17 UTC  

There is an economics lecture I have been waiting to watch. If you @ me and it’s polite I will respond, if not good luck to you.

2020-12-22 03:51:56 UTC  

@Gypsy look two things create the monetization of debt: 1) open market operations as you say but not only that the expansion of the federal reserve balance sheet (that's an increase in the underlying money supply) and 2) filling that balance sheet with debt (US Treasury debt in particular) ... that is by pretty much the definition monetizing the debt ... good luck to you if you wish to deal those points

2020-12-22 03:55:07 UTC  

@Gypsy right and I don't know because I'm no expert and you are ... okay fine ... tell me how this expert is wrong when they say "The Federal Reserve, also known as the Fed, is the central bank of the United States, and it monetizes U.S. debt when it buys U.S. Treasury bills, bonds, and notes." https://www.thebalance.com/how-is-the-fed-monetizing-debt-3306126

2020-12-22 04:05:44 UTC  

sorry I was interrupted from responding ... thought I might learn something about economics but I was wrong ... okay back to our conversation ... we're almost there with socialized healthcare now ... I pay thru the nose for healthcare insurance and they over-charge the insurance company every time I use it to pay for all the folks that don't have insurance or have too little insurance ... then there are the famous words you never want to hear "we're here from the government and we're here to help"

2020-12-22 04:40:25 UTC  

Middle men siphoning profit drives costs down. It's common sense.

2020-12-22 04:43:03 UTC  

right profits go up as cost and quality goes down ... yep there you go ... and if supply ever runs low well just go wait in line

2020-12-22 04:44:31 UTC  

You don't have to wait in line when they decide what care you can't have, silly.

2020-12-22 04:46:34 UTC  

Please accept this 1995 palliative protocol. Real health is expensive.

2020-12-22 04:46:42 UTC  

no you have to wait in line before they tell you no https://youtu.be/ryNxl-lpOME

2020-12-22 04:46:52 UTC  

Hahahahaha

2020-12-22 04:47:23 UTC  

Seinfeld theory ... all of life is part of Seinfeld episode

2020-12-22 04:47:52 UTC  

I don't think a day goes by without a reference.

2020-12-22 05:49:22 UTC  

@meglide sorry I was distracted. I hear what you’re saying. But Obamacare did a great deal of the healthcare cost harm to us. I was selling healthcare at the time. I was licensed in all lines but healthcare was my specialty. Obamacare sank us. Get less pay more. And trump tried to end it

2020-12-22 05:55:46 UTC  

yes repeal and replace .. except he had no replace plan and only a partial repeal plan

2020-12-22 05:56:05 UTC  

Trump wanted to give $2000 stimulus. But pelosi had to have all those other payoffs to other countries

2020-12-22 05:58:51 UTC  

Actually he did have a plan. He never was going to hurt us. He would have it ready if Supreme Court ruled to take Obamacare out. See insurance never works the way people are saying. If insurance company goes out another insurance company takes them over. The government can’t drop people either

2020-12-22 06:01:47 UTC  

I spent my entire career in insurance. People don’t realize there is always a back up plan. That’s why insurance companies take over when one fails. Their regulated federally. So the government would have to protect that benefit

2020-12-22 06:03:19 UTC  

Hey all. What's up?

2020-12-22 06:04:39 UTC  

Hey what’s up?

2020-12-22 06:06:17 UTC  

Not much, just reading the new "COVID relief (elsewhere)" bill.