Message from @Gypsy

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2020-12-22 03:17:55 UTC  

you should study federal reserve balance sheets

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772982351520333824/790780132271980584/federal_reserve_balance_sheet.PNG

2020-12-22 03:18:13 UTC  

I have.

2020-12-22 03:18:36 UTC  

@Diablodeathlord there must be ways not to get it like religious belief or health problems like big time allergies

2020-12-22 03:19:14 UTC  

when the balance sheet goes up that's monetization ... who do you think bought the treasuries?

2020-12-22 03:19:14 UTC  

How could they not have religious exemptions and medical exemptions.

2020-12-22 03:21:23 UTC  

I’m disabled so I can’t get fired but in the next 4 years I could loose Medicare or SSDI because Joe has a past of wanting to cut those

2020-12-22 03:22:14 UTC  

Those are open market operations, not aimed at monetizing debt like MMT. The difference is that monetizations purpose is solely to fund debt. Open market operations can be reversed. And conceivably before Powell, you would expect them to come off balance sheets during the expansions to slow down the economy. It hardly matters though because they said moral hazard doesn’t matter and they have signaled that they have the mandate of low unemployment, strong total cap returns and stable money growth. They can reasonably only focus on one of those.

2020-12-22 03:23:07 UTC  

Joe can’t do anything by himself. Democrats own the house. Seems unlikely.

2020-12-22 03:25:21 UTC  

If conservatives win the senate it’ll be ok for the next 4 years

2020-12-22 03:29:23 UTC  

they bought Treasury securities ... now how do they buy any asset? they create the money out of thin air and buy it (that's how a fiat currency system works) when they buy treasuries that is monetizing the federal debt ... if they were to sell those assets and more importantly reduce their balance sheet that would be de-monetizing the debt which they haven't and won't and can't do ... whatever their claimed aim they are definitely monetizing the debt

2020-12-22 03:29:35 UTC  

Hopefully. Hopefully you are okay either way.

2020-12-22 03:31:37 UTC  

Yes I hope so. Very hard times. Being isolated because you have health conditions. And this world is so hardened. Thank goodness I have faith

2020-12-22 03:31:54 UTC  

It’s hard on everyone

2020-12-22 03:32:58 UTC  

You believe what you want to believe man. I am not arguing, I have spent years studying this professionally, academically and in my off time. Debt monetization is a specific term. If there is a gold bug YouTuber redefining, good for them. But open market operations aren’t generally considered debt monetization by most economist. MMT is debt monetization. Open Market operations have been used to expand the fractional reserves for 50 years. So if you disagree, that’s cool. But unless I see evidence it’s not worth arguing to me.

2020-12-22 03:33:32 UTC  

seems as if Trump is doing just about everything he can to lose the Senate for the Republicans

2020-12-22 03:34:19 UTC  

Awe. We need him to help us win

2020-12-22 03:40:41 UTC  

if you're so smart then explain how an expansion of the federal reserve balance sheet is not also an expansion of the money supply AND explain how when that very balance sheet is filled with treasuries that is not monetizing the federal debt ... heck just define MMT ... I noticed how instead of explaining how I was incorrect you resorted to using undefined terms like MMT and then claiming I'm watching some YouTube gold-something or other ... here you want to see evidence look straight at the own Federal Reserve policy decisions from March where they say "The Committee directs the Desk to increase over coming months the System Open Market Account holdings of Treasury securities and agency mortgage-backed securities (MBS) by at least $500 billion and by at least $200 billion, respectively. " ... expand the balance sheet (print money) by buying treasuries (debt monetization) https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/monetary20200315a1.htm

2020-12-22 03:41:40 UTC  

MMT is modern monetary theory

2020-12-22 03:41:52 UTC  

It’s when all debt is funded by printing money

2020-12-22 03:42:00 UTC  

So in effect you tax everyone

2020-12-22 03:42:06 UTC  

Also source

2020-12-22 03:42:15 UTC  

Econ degree

2020-12-22 03:42:17 UTC  

how is it helping when his own folks are calling for boycotting the election

2020-12-22 03:42:46 UTC  

The fact you don’t know think that’s wrong explains how economically literate you are.

2020-12-22 03:42:54 UTC  

That’s pretty well known

2020-12-22 03:42:57 UTC  

oh so only full monetization counts ... not partial

2020-12-22 03:43:12 UTC  

Open market operations aren’t new

2020-12-22 03:43:33 UTC  

So reimagining them as debt monetization conflates the issue

2020-12-22 03:43:45 UTC  

They are like 50 plus years old

2020-12-22 03:44:19 UTC  

Even Volcker had the ability to conduct Open Market operations

2020-12-22 03:44:23 UTC  

you are correction "partial" monetization has been going on for 50 years

2020-12-22 03:45:03 UTC  

last federal reserve chair with the ability to raise rates it seems

2020-12-22 03:45:07 UTC  

Also I have explained why you are incorrect several times. If you still don’t understand then either I am not the best person to explain it or you are unwilling to learn.

2020-12-22 03:45:16 UTC  

That’s will make everything harder. The dems will undo everything and make us closer to social healthcare. I was an insurance agent. Securities license. If we go to social healthcare it will bankrupt some hospitals they can’t make it on Medicare allowable@meglide

2020-12-22 03:46:06 UTC  

The only reason anyone would even call these open market operations debt monetization is because they have dropped the moral hazard doctrine

2020-12-22 03:46:06 UTC  

@Gypsy, you just advanced to level 4!

2020-12-22 03:46:58 UTC  

@Gypsy what I noticed is you don't answer my questions

2020-12-22 03:47:01 UTC  

Also I don’t want to go on if you are going to insult me. I know what I am talking about, I am not trying to prove anything, I was trying to add to your knowledge base. It’s of no benefit if you don’t want to hear it.

2020-12-22 03:47:22 UTC  

I mean of you know what open market operations are then you know I did. 😂

2020-12-22 03:48:20 UTC  

And truthfully, monetary base expansions are always inflation positive. But rates have opposite short term and long term effects because people adapt to change.

2020-12-22 03:50:17 UTC  

There is an economics lecture I have been waiting to watch. If you @ me and it’s polite I will respond, if not good luck to you.