@Gypsy what I noticed is you don't answer my questions

Also I don’t want to go on if you are going to insult me. I know what I am talking about, I am not trying to prove anything, I was trying to add to your knowledge base. It’s of no benefit if you don’t want to hear it.

I mean of you know what open market operations are then you know I did. 😂

And truthfully, monetary base expansions are always inflation positive. But rates have opposite short term and long term effects because people adapt to change.

There is an economics lecture I have been waiting to watch. If you @ me and it’s polite I will respond, if not good luck to you.

@Gypsy look two things create the monetization of debt: 1) open market operations as you say but not only that the expansion of the federal reserve balance sheet (that's an increase in the underlying money supply) and 2) filling that balance sheet with debt (US Treasury debt in particular) ... that is by pretty much the definition monetizing the debt ... good luck to you if you wish to deal those points

@Gypsy right and I don't know because I'm no expert and you are ... okay fine ... tell me how this expert is wrong when they say "The Federal Reserve, also known as the Fed, is the central bank of the United States, and it monetizes U.S. debt when it buys U.S. Treasury bills, bonds, and notes." https://www.thebalance.com/how-is-the-fed-monetizing-debt-3306126

sorry I was interrupted from responding ... thought I might learn something about economics but I was wrong ... okay back to our conversation ... we're almost there with socialized healthcare now ... I pay thru the nose for healthcare insurance and they over-charge the insurance company every time I use it to pay for all the folks that don't have insurance or have too little insurance ... then there are the famous words you never want to hear "we're here from the government and we're here to help"

Middle men siphoning profit drives costs down. It's common sense.

right profits go up as cost and quality goes down ... yep there you go ... and if supply ever runs low well just go wait in line

You don't have to wait in line when they decide what care you can't have, silly.

Please accept this 1995 palliative protocol. Real health is expensive.

no you have to wait in line before they tell you no https://youtu.be/ryNxl-lpOME

Hahahahaha

Seinfeld theory ... all of life is part of Seinfeld episode

I don't think a day goes by without a reference.

https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1341238033190817793?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

@meglide sorry I was distracted. I hear what you’re saying. But Obamacare did a great deal of the healthcare cost harm to us. I was selling healthcare at the time. I was licensed in all lines but healthcare was my specialty. Obamacare sank us. Get less pay more. And trump tried to end it

yes repeal and replace .. except he had no replace plan and only a partial repeal plan

Trump wanted to give $2000 stimulus. But pelosi had to have all those other payoffs to other countries

Actually he did have a plan. He never was going to hurt us. He would have it ready if Supreme Court ruled to take Obamacare out. See insurance never works the way people are saying. If insurance company goes out another insurance company takes them over. The government can’t drop people either

I spent my entire career in insurance. People don’t realize there is always a back up plan. That’s why insurance companies take over when one fails. Their regulated federally. So the government would have to protect that benefit

Hey all. What's up?

Hey what’s up?

Not much, just reading the new "COVID relief (elsewhere)" bill.

We have got to get the 2 houses and the predators to realize charity needs to begin at home for a while

you don't need the Supreme Court if you have Congress ... just needed to repeal and replace in Congress but that didn't happen

I'd rather have them let businesses open than having to give $600 charity checks.

only the government can break your leg, hand you a crutch and say "see you couldn't walk if it were not for us"

The thing that is appalling is that they hurried to approve it to prevent "government shutdown" hahaha. What about the economy shutdown?

Great metaphor.

Also give you a 2ft crutch that you can't really use.

Peter Schiff says it all the time ... not original with me, don't think it's original with him

Congress was led by dems. President is conservative. Gridlock. Trump tried to go to scotus to repeal snd replace. Scotus not that it was needed would also not have allowed people to go without insurance or preexisting coverage if they would have termed Obamacare. We were never going to do without insurance or or pre existing

@WaffleWaffle. That is a good one

COUNSELOR GRULER, in case you don't already have this explosive background intelligence, here you go: "WHO IS STEALING AMERICA" this goes deeper than just the election, Counselor, it exposes what and who is really behind this election fraud and why. It presents compelling evidence that either evil or just moronic democrates were essentially selling out the American people and our traditional values to a malevolent foreign power. Believe it or not, this election fraud, if you read between the lines (you known,, like those interlinear notes on motions or appellate briefs? lol), is China's strategic plan to replace Trump because he wasn't afraid to stand up for America---unlike all of his predecessors--- to China!!! The Democrats were effectively conspiring with a foreign enemy to seize power of the U.S. regardless of the will of the people! They even have video footage, unbelieveably, of Biden admitting not only his willingness but his intent to engage in voter fraud!!! Mind blowing! Once this was accomplished of course you know what happens next. The American people, vicariously through Biden, become beholden to the desires of a country known to keep the bodies of political opponents (like Christians) alive on a machine for several days while their vital organs are harvested and sold one by one. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/WExMnjVKu44" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> and here is some more background from political insider attorney Lin Wood: https://youtu.be/Cgr02u-a1vc

What were the options right?

For group insurance in 1997 I think hipaa was made into law. Those on group insurance have preexisting protection and health coverage for 63 days minimum and the could buy expensive cobra after that when leaving a job. But that doesn’t help Obamacare. And not everyone has insurance. But again Obamacare raised premiums to where people sometimes only can afford an insurance discount plan and that’s not insurance. It’s like going to the hospital with a coupon card

Disgraceful, beyond disgraceful. And remember this is business as usual on how the American people are screwed day in and day out by the people we were foolish enough to put into office in the first place. Disgusting. I'm never paying taxes again. They want to screw me, well screw them!

not the first two years of Trump's term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/115th_United_States_Congress

@brotherdave. That makes sense. I’ve been hearing that China is intelligent enough to hack us and make it look like Russia and many yrs ago China bought up companies like ancestry.com to have our dna to build chemicals that would take our health. Was he of us